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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 12:31 PM
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238. Now, let ME elaborate on your elaboration, please....
1) The Repugnants can run commercials showing Biden attacking Obama when both were candidates for the Democratic Nominee, and use anti-Obama quotes that Biden likely said;

They've already done that, about 8:30 AM today - it went over like a lead balloon! Let's see the Obama ads next weekend quoting Mitt Romney attacking McCain. It's all part of politics and campaigns.

2) Biden has past plagiarism issues (though I concede these were some time ago, still, Rush & Co. will bring them up)

McCain (Solzhenitsyn) and his wife (Betty Crocker) have done worse and much more recently. Biden's "plagiarism" has been debunked thousands of times over the last 20 years.

3) Biden does nothing to help win any toss-up state (Recall how LBJ secured the victory for JFK by putting Texas in the Dem column?)

Pennsylvania? Virginia? Maybe even New Jersey?

4) Biden voted for the Iraq war, and now how is Obama going to attack McCain for doing the same?

Biden, almost within weeks of the vote, explained WHY he voted for "Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq" (which, if anyone actually reads it, was NOT "for war") and under which conditions, which were not followed, we should go to war. He was NOT in favor of bush invading Iraq in 2003.

I hope during this campaign the issue of the resolution becomes a factor, and that people actually read it. Here's a link:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.htm

5) Biden pisses off the base by voting for the credit card companies, campaign donations will now not be as high as they could have been

A minor issue compared to his correct positions and votes on all the other issues.

6) Biden has said some strange things at points

Like "I'll check with my staff to see how many houses I own", or maybe singing "bomb bomb Iran", or "I don't know what kind of car I drive"? "We'll be greeted as liberators"? "Mission Accomplished"? Many more.....

7) Biden doesn't seem to me to be a messenger for *change*

Whoaaaa, you were going to "elaborate", not pontificate with things like "doesn't seem to me"!

8) Now let me state that I AM DEFINITELY NOT ageist, but understand that some in the country may well be. And will Biden himself without a doubt feel like running for president after 2 Obama terms at the age of 73?

So, he's not a good choice for VP NOW because he'll be 73 IF he decides to run for President in eight years? Hillary Clinton is only 4 years younger, Sebelius less than 5 years younger - what's the age cutoff for candidates for vice president in case they want to run for president 8 years later?

9) There were better candidates available. Clark especially, but also Richardson (who I don't think really attacked Obama much while a candidate), Senator Brown of Ohio, Sebelius, Kaine, etc.

Richardson would have ideologically been a great choice, but even in this day and age two minorities on the same ticket would fail. The others? Where did Senator Brown come from? Sebelius, Kaine, etc. were much less well known nationally and have much less experience in international affairs than Biden.



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