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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:04 PM Original message |
Lest We Forget.Debt Deja Vu! From DU's bvar22 8/18/10: This is how "THEY" will cut Social Security: |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. Social Security IS one of the BIG causes for the deficit b/c the funds were STOLEN |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Then we have to make them pay it back. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Cutting Social Security is a means of retroactively converting |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Thank you for correctly framing this issue. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Spread the word, Big Blue Marble |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. It is theft. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. correct . . . social security is not a "benefit" or an "entitlement," it is deferred compensation. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
60. And even "liberal" Bill Maher is helping the neo-cons |
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YankmeCrankme (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Social Security IS NOT one of the BIG causes for the deficit |
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marew (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
34. I really get upset when the rethugs never... |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. i don't think people realize this. i |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 04:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
72. isn't that like saying buying groceries is the cause of ... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Damned chilling if you ask me.. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. It is amazing how their playbook is so obvious yet.... |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. What's worse is that our leadership falls for it every time. n/t |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Or else they're in on it |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
65. It works because logical dissonance is a powerful tool... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. "This is how "THEY" will cut Social Security:" |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R for bvar. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. K&R |
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Eyerish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. K&R |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
10. k&r |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. knr - looking forward to Wednesday when Obama tells the American people... |
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iwishiwas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. dream on. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. One can try ... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. We need to spread the information that the attack on Social |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #24 |
38. Yes we do ... been trying :) Obama should tell the people on Wednesday. n/t |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. The Obama "Payroll Tax Holiday" has already... |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. This deserves it's own post. |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. There is another little pearl in that "tax holiday" that is overlooked. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
66. I'm sick to my stomach. |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
12. k and r |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
13. The power of the people |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
14. I remember K&Ring this last August, and I'm proud to do it again now! |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. K&R |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
17. Wow...and the amazing thing? The poster was probably call all sorts of names. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
51. Yes...he/she was... It's not easy being being a prophet. |
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tex-wyo-dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
18. Thank you for reposting this, and cudos to bvar22! |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. tex-wyo-dem, as I have been explaining |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
19. I hope the demopods are taking notes |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
22. The only way we can get them to stop jerking us around is to find |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:00 AM Response to Original message |
27. Obama is a *Diversion* |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:18 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Yes, |
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Roy Rolling (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
28. change the framing...lose the word "entitlement" |
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livvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. I'm in full agreement with you on this. |
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Roy Rolling (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. haven't read |
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livvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Start with... |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I like SS insurance, Unemployment insurance, since that's what it actually is, |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Good point. Just calling it insurance might work! |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. After all this time...why don't our Dems "change the framing?" |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #50 |
76. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
30. only radical action now will turn this around. nt |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
35. Corporate Media (CBS) Is Censoring |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
42. Where is my pitch fork? |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
44. a few weeks ago ed rendell said |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Yeah. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
46. Thanks for the Reminder. That seems to be the script...works like a charm |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. Kicked and recommended, thanks to bvar. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
48. K&R |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
49. They will not STOP jerking us around. |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
53. Add to # 2 - they will call you Unamerican for suggesting cuts at the Pentagon or DoD/Warz r'Us |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
56. You certainly nabbed Van Hollen correctly |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
58. it doesn't matter what the people want. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #58 |
74. I worked for a small company where the engineers were paid in the $150,000-$250,000 range. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. OMG. that's disgusting. |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
59. Actually, I listened to Chris Van Hollen |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
61. "It's time for them to STOP jerking us around." - Oh, this |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
62. Good call, bvar22; although, I wish I was saying "I'm glad you were wrong" |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
63. Progressives marginalized? |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
64. Thanks for reposting this. |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
67. K and R |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
68. ''By their works you will know them.'' |
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Moostache (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
69. Ironically - just listening to 11 March 1996 - George Carlin (Back in Town) |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:39 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. "Start with 1980 and pick ANY quality of life indicator..." - excellent point. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #69 |
77. You should write the major points of this post as a LTTE. |
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desertrat777 (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
70. Nothing to look at - move along now - it's for your own good. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 04:59 AM Response to Original message |
73. too late to k&r, unfortunately. i always dig Bvar22's posts. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
75. Kicking for the morning crowd. |
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