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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:08 PM Original message |
It seems that Dennis Kucinich may lose without losing |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. See what fascism looks like. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. how is it fascism? |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
105. Corporatism |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #105 |
117. how is it corporatism or whatever you want to call it? |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. The Influence of the Vote |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. A random thought indeed. It's called losing elections. If Dems won more |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. you presume the arguement is about both sides doing the same thing. |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. It is more about demographics |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
99. It's also about which parts of the states gained and lost population |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. See all the people not seeing Fascism? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
4. The Right-wing plans long term for our demise and plays to win |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Exactly. you can be srue there will be more gerrymandering Dems out of their seats. |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. this is the most powerful act in politics |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. The repukes are in full control of all this..They know full well where the power sources are. |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Look, the writing is on the wall |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
5. Marcy Kaptur could be in trouble, too. |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. I must say, one thing I never understood... |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Why just 435? |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. don't have the answer |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
55. The founders wanted one rep per 30K..and it was fixed in 1911 @ 435 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:19 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Exactly. The size limit is just a statute, it can be changed at anytime |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
127. they'd need a huge chamber and offices for everyone |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. Crroks would have half as much influence |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. The apporationment is Art 1, Sect 2 |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Thanks |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. The number of seats is set by statute...it's not in the Constitution. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
129. TRUTH |
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jotsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. Just when you think things can't get much suckier. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
13. They got Feingold and they'll get him |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
141. Of course Ohio 's Kasich will be after DK> |
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Skink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
16. We should ask Dennis how he feels about it. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
126. See # 125. nt |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
19. Well, there goes the author 1 actual law and a great speaker against all Democratic legislation. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. That is a LIE! |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. That is not a "LIE!" - it's a pretty accurate tally of Rep. Kucinich's congressional career. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. If the bills were going to pass anyway, why are you mad that he spoke against them? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. "Mad"? LOL - funny stuff. But thank you for confirming the point of my post: that Dennis practices |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. That doesn't mean it was better to vote for someone who was "pro-choice" |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:46 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Having a hard time explaining away Dennis's long-time "pro-life"/anti-choice position, are we? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:05 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Why does that matter to you more than anything else? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:14 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. *You're* the one still trying to excuse & explain away his lifetime anti-choice position, not I. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. If he went pro-choice, it doesn't MATTER that he used to be antichoice. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:26 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. STILL having a hard time explaining away Dennis's long-time "pro-life"/anti-choice position, are we? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:29 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Why can't you admit that that stopped mattering when he WENT pro-choice? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:39 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. It matters quite a bit, because it speaks to his character: he changed his position ONLY because he |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. There's no way you can seriously argue that Obama is MORE principled than Kucinich |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:07 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. President Obama is much more principled than Dennis, of course: you well know it. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:14 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Tell us again why it isn't enough that Dennis switched to the progressive position |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:20 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. "Dennis switched to the progressive position" - LOL. Yep: when he decided to run in the Dem primary. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:22 AM Original message |
It's NOT important |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
95. It is important, and it is a character flaw. Kucinich simply fails the honest convictions test. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:47 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. When did Guantanamo close? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #100 |
122. Non-responsive. We are talking about Dennis, and his unfortunate tendency to flip-flop on a major |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:20 AM Response to Reply #80 |
92. Where has President Obama ever demonstrated ANY principles? |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:51 AM Response to Reply #92 |
103. Principle |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:49 AM Response to Reply #80 |
102. BWAH HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:15 AM Response to Reply #68 |
86. That's not true. He actually realized he was wrong. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #86 |
134. Right... Check this video out and explain it. Thanks! |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. The question was...."if he had to choose FROM THE GOP" |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. He stood up to the leadership on the watered-down healthcare bill for weeks |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
114. Thank you. Plus one.......nt |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
21. Now he can devote his full time to his first love: making quixotic presidential runs. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Amazing |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
116. You nailed it......nt |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. It was the voters' ignorance that made his Presidential runs fail, not the attempts. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. "Blame the voters" is not a real winning strategy in a democracy, FYI. But that attitude sums up |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
104. Was saying the base are "fucking retards" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
139. that's an absurd claim. |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
32. I have a friend who knows Dennis and who lives in his district. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. I know a couple as well. Outstanding constituent service n/t |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Dennis' district never wanted a more CONSERVATIVE congressmember |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. What the hell is it that you think Dennis' constituents wanted that he DIDN'T do? |
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Recovered Repug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. But if he runs like a REAL Democrat, |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. And it was right. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
26. If Dennis' seat is taken away, he should run for the Ohio governorship in 2012 |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Yeah, right: Dennis would sweep...downtown Cleveland. And there's another problem... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:54 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I thought it was every two years. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:10 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Hate Dennis? Perish the thought! I love Dennis - he reminds me of my sophomore Poli-Sci prof. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. It's not like a bland centrist would be better to have than him. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:30 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. A "bland centrist" who stood by his convictions and consistently voted for the Democratic agenda |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:38 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Dennis DID stand up for his convictions on the healthcare bill |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. If Dennis hadn't run in 2004, the presidential race would have been meaningless |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:10 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Of course, about no one noticed when he did...particularly voters. You do understand we compete for |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:12 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. A lot of people noticed. A lot of people cheered him. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:19 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. A "lot" of people did a "lot" of things, apparently - except for vote for Dennis. That's the rub. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:23 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. YOU have no facts |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:45 AM Response to Reply #62 |
69. I have all the facts. You are screaming at me precisely because you angrily dislike them. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:26 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Kerry was just the guy the corporations TOLD us to nominate |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Tell me the kind of Democrat you'd actually prefer. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:45 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I prefer the kind we actually have in the Oval Office right now. n/t. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:19 AM Response to Reply #49 |
61. The kind that concedes to the repubs at every opportunity? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:51 AM Response to Reply #61 |
71. President Obama has done more for the progressive cause in two years than Kucinich has done |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:00 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Bwahahahaha! |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:03 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. And right on cue, the irrelevant reply coupled with the pedestrian personal attack. Textbook. n/t. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:05 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Thanks. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:09 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. LOL - fun stuff. n/t. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:10 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. All your posts have been is pedestrian personal attacks on Dennis Kucinich |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:17 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. My posts have been accurate, very telling analysis on the career of Dennis Kucinich - it has been |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:18 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Your argument about his switch on choice isn't irrefutable at all. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:22 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. It *is* irrefutable: he "switched" only on the eve of running in the Democratic primary, and for the |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:24 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. You don't know that and can't prove that. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:28 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. I do know that and it *has* been proven: history backs me up. Kucinich was anti-choice, right up |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:03 AM Response to Reply #96 |
109. It wasn't on the day. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:38 AM Response to Reply #94 |
98. "And it was just ONE freaking issue" - So, women's rights don't count so much, eh? Reproductive |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:02 AM Response to Reply #98 |
108. Of course women's rights count |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:13 AM Response to Reply #98 |
113. Dennis is now pro-choice. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #113 |
120. It speaks to his character - he changed a MAJOR position he had on a very important component of |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
136. You must be mad. Progressive? Liberal? Not bloody likely... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:30 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. It isn't hyper-blue. It's purplish and full of Reagan Democrats n/t |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Baloney - it's about as blue as blue can get in Ohio, with Dems routinely taking 65% of the vote. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:27 AM Response to Reply #51 |
65. It's blue because people like they way they are represented |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:32 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. LOL - it's "Blue" because the Ohio legislature concentrated urban voters there. Even at that, Dennis |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:46 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. So how will things be better when he's gone? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:57 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. For starters, perhaps we'll get a Democrat in his seat who cares about actually passing progressive |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:02 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. It is very telling. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:05 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Dennis NEVER made ruinning for president the deciding factor in his votes in Congress |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:07 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Obama voted for cloture on FISA. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:12 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Dennis was quite inattentive to his constituents - which is why he had to *TWICE* break off his |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:17 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. He won that primary solidly. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:31 AM Response to Reply #88 |
97. "It would have served no purpose for Dennis to stay in the race and give up his Congressional seat" |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:01 AM Response to Reply #97 |
107. You can't seriously say that the guy was obligated to go into the political wilderness |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #107 |
123. To do right by his constituents, that's precisely what he should have done. Instead of neglecting |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:19 AM Response to Reply #72 |
90. None of the legislation he spoke against WAS progressive. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:12 AM Response to Reply #67 |
83. He did better than Chris Dodd... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
133. He would definitely lose in that endeavor |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #133 |
140. OK...I got the year wrong. I already admitted that. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
57. If he runs for president again, I will work on his campaign. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:49 AM Response to Original message |
101. Women of DU: take a look at this dismissal of your reproductive rights, as embodied in reply #94 - |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:05 AM Response to Reply #101 |
110. Abortion rights are not more important than all other women's issues |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #110 |
119. Spin, spin, spin! I would too, had I dismissed a major component of women's rights as "trivial." |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:10 AM Response to Reply #101 |
112. What matters is that he became pro-choice and will now stay that way |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #101 |
128. Well, are you ok with endless war? Kucinich has always voted against that stuff..but most women ro |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
106. "And it was just ONE freaking issue. Why do you obsess about such a triviality." - #94 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:06 AM Response to Reply #106 |
111. Women's rights are not protected by politicians with conservative stances on OTHER issues |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #111 |
121. A woman's right to choose was not protected by Dennis for *years* - until he found it politically |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
115. Son of a bitch no! |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
124. Crap |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
125. A loss to the nation. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
131. Nonsense. He can simply run in whatever district he lives in after the new lines are drawn |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
132. I see the Kucinich haters are out in full force. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #132 |
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