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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:08 AM Original message |
Fukushima nuclear power plant: 1760 tons of spent nuclear fuel |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. Which would mean what? |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Well, the spent fuel is stored in a giant pool of water. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Which would mean what? |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:21 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. I am not educated on the volatility of spent nuclear fuel. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:23 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. That is my biggest fear about #3 explosion. |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:00 AM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Reread the OP with updated information on the spent fuel pools. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
2. Not at risk, almost certainly exposed. The explosions at both reactors was significant enough... |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. You'd better look at that second explosion again, hoss. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. We got a closeup of #1 actually, we don't have one of #3 that I have found yet. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Before or after? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:20 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. After, this photo shows before and after: |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Wowza. What is that surviving lattice made of? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I believe it is steal. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
42. not a closeup but |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. it's only the top level (at the level of that orange thing) that blew off. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I know, look at the storage pools, they don't have caps or anything. |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
45. That was reactor # 1. The explosion at reactor # 3 appears to have caused more damage |
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reformist2 (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
64. My God. How can the storage pool still be intact... the top half of the building is gone! |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. When you say 'exposed to the open air,' what are the implications? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Spent fuel is heavy stuff. Mostly uranium, a small portion of plutonium |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:13 AM Response to Original message |
4. You will need this link |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
6. Well you did say it was just a hobby. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:15 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. At least he admitted being wrong. He probably should apologize for calling this a lie. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Who "he"? What "this"? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. In kristopher's link in post #4 he denied this fervently. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:01 AM Response to Reply #18 |
35. What are you blathering about now? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Read? |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:13 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Explain your comments please. They are not aligned with your link. |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:14 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I wrongfully accused another poster of posting fallacious material. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:18 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. No problem. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. +1 |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #41 |
53. You should post a retraction in that thread so people know you changed your mind |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. Respect |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:26 AM Response to Original message |
21. map of facility (fukushima #1 plant) |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:27 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Do we have a post-photo of the entire facility? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. after the #1 explosion, which i believe is on the far right of the group of 4 buildings |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. We need a shot zoomed further out so we can see the dry cask facility. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. where is the common pool? i can't make out through the smoke. |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:59 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. It is directly behind the first two reactors. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:06 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. ok, i see now. |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
58. Here is one After shot |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. The common pool is obscured by clouds. |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Would that be possible with Google Earth? |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. They may be blocked. Google Earth does not have up to date photos though. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
28. Safety of Spent Nuclear Storage Pools: from 2006 report requested by Congress |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:54 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I'm making this part of my OP. Thank you. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. The problem is during the explosions, you can be sure they're heroically keeping water in the pools. |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Yes, but what happens if they lose the ability to pump sea water? |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. I've been wondering where the seawater is going in #3 |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:12 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Almost certainly steam evaporation. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. in one of the briefings the nuke guys explained that the reactors had |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:29 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. That was one of the processes they thought was taking |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:34 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. at one point in the #1 saga they realized that pressure had equalized |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:55 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Yes. Boilers on board ships and in other facilities |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:23 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. I wouldn't be so sure of that. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. self delete dupe |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:19 AM Response to Original message |
51. When you say "This is a major cause for concern".... |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. It's not the nuclear apocalypse by any stretch of the imagination. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
52. Does this mean that the CS-137 could be from the spent fuel rather than the core? |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. I am praying to God tonite that it does not result in a radioactive fire... |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I don't think you can. Maybe dump liquid graphite on it? |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. This may require the quick construction of a protective dome. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
60. Welcome to the significant event band wagon if two days late |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. The difference is I actually care about facts. |
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