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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:36 PM Original message |
Oops... 'Obama's Social Security Talk Is Turning Voters Off, Pollsters Say' - Dan Froomkin/HuffPo |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. what a load of bull |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. er, the same as Obama's? |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. no, read up on their position |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. President Obama has barely tried to differentiate the Dem and Rep positions, imo. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. I agree completely. n/t |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
62. +++ |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. LOL !!! - You Mean THESE People ??? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. "The Republican Party won decisive control of the House in this year's midterm elections" |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. My Point Was The... 'Less than half know GOP won the House' Part... |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
103. I agree completely. nt |
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Smashcut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
106. More like a load of reality |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. "Americans now trust Republicans in Congress more than Democrats when it comes to Social Security " |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. This should state: Rampant speculation about Social Security cuts |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Why? |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. If he has no plans to undercut SS, why not? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. What? n/t |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Why take the PR hit if he isnt planning on messing with it |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. A "PR hit" created by Democrats? |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. No, a "PR hit" from supporters of Social Security |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. "Which side are you on?" |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Ya See Pro... THAT Is The Problem... |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. +100 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Well here's a bigger problem |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. It's Called A "Heads-Up" !!! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Head's-up? |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. Tell Ya What... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #60 |
87. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 12:13 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Deleted message |
Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #33 |
96. Yes, make no mistake, no REAL Democrat |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
85. Yeah, it's not like Andrew Breitbart blogged about it |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #85 |
97. LOL! nt |
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Caretha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
76. It is his job |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
78. Yeah, SS is such a minor issue ... |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Well... Obama Could... You Know... Take A Stand... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Like that |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. "is absurd that billionaires pay the same amount into the system as someone who earns $106,800." |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Wait |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Deleted message |
ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. What? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. and the crap in the article about lifting the cap on fica to tax "billionaires" has nothing to do |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. What the hell does the income tax have to do with Social Security? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. the article is the one who introduced the subject of billionaires to the discussion, saying that |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. "lifting the cap on fica is a good thing because it would tax billionaires." |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. I got your point, but you have no response. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Totally agree! Found that out during the HC discussions :) n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. What don't you understand? |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. I understand that you do not understand when it is convenient for your POV... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #54 |
79. kick n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
73. That was in October. In January he extended the Bush tax cuts. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
44. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for continuously making this point ... |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 05:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
95. Take a stand...yes, that would be nice...nt |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. Has Obama come out and corrected that speculation? He's |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. My bet, the response will be crickets :( n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. That is too bad. I really would like an answer, from someone, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Deleted message |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Sadly, it appears you are correct. However, I have done a little |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Unfortunately words and subsequent actions are not always the same... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Having fun? |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #83 |
89. You can believe in talk if you want, I'll believe the talk when followed by actions... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Well, that settles it |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Well then why post blue links to his stated positions when he has backed away from them... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 05:02 AM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Excellent post, sometimes I think I was dreaming when I |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Perfect argument. nt |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
6. Is he prepared to tell us that his predecessors have lied about SS for years? |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Interesting |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
38. The man does not even know the history of the program |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. I find it hard to reconcile Obama's "Social Security is not in crisis" with your |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. The President has been warning about Social Security ever since he was a candidate |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Funny: |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Not really, he's been breaking promises since he took office...actually, even before |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
71. If he makes it clear that SS had nothing to do with the Deficit |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Since the payroll tax holiday (I know it has only been 3 weeks but still) |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. I don't buy that. If THEY consciously pulled a con on the American |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #71 |
99. He needs to say; "Social security |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 03:50 AM Response to Reply #99 |
107. I have never heard him say it either. He often uses that old |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. Would love to see the questions. It is "Obama's Social Security Talk" or "Speculative Op-Eds Talk" |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
21. How was the question worded.... |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Link Works For Me, But It's A .pdf File... |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Here's the content of the PDF - nothing about questions. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
61. "Findings from an Election Eve/Night Survey of 1,200 Likely Voters Nationwide, Oct. 31-Nov. 2, 2010" |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 12:06 AM Response to Reply #36 |
86. Voters oppose free trade deals by similar margins yet we keep getting them. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. Not happy with either party on this issue and would want to know more about Lake's ... |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
42. Obama's plan to raise retirement age up to 70...(?) |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
69. Do you have any Obama quotes? n/t |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
102. Do Obama appointees count? Or is he not allowed to delegate? (nt) |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
50. i really do`t trust either party |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
53. i haven't heard 'Obama's social security talk' |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
55. Gee, so something we haven't heard of except out of the mouths |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #55 |
70. LOL n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. Do you have quotes from Obama making it clear that SS |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
57. Recommend |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
58. Trust |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
64. k and r but no one's listening. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
65. If you want to cut SS, you're in the wrong party. Period. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 04:08 AM Response to Reply #65 |
108. EXACTLY correct, no REAL Democrat will ever suport |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
66. K&R |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
67. DDDDDDDDUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH ! |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
81. Obama's social security talk? WTF?... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #81 |
91. Do not forget those who appointed the heads of the deficit reduction commission... |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
90. bold means |
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Kweli4Real (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
100. I am a fairly informed person ... |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Then he had better come out and state, unequivically, that he won't do what he sounds like he is |
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105. Pay attention to Obama's state of the union schpiel... |
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