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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:05 PM Original message |
Just why the fuck should someone else you'll never meet own your fucking house in the first place? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. You got it by paying money. That is the way it is, unless the House Fairy comes into being. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Money is just paper. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Well, I see where we're going with this. I'll just say, when I bought my house, I put down |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I might have opted for the chicken piccata and apple pies. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. LOL--I actually use Giada DeLaurentiis's recipe for the piccata, but cut down on the |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
59. I'll have to go look for that. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Mmm, roasted squash. Every season has its treats. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Yes, but why should some other dickhead have the power to create money... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. They don't "create" money, they have other customers who pay loan interest |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. You obviously have no idea how banking works. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Well, I guess you've got me there. I don't understand all the intricacies of banking, |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. You shouldn't have to... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Well, if it is "just" paper, it should be easy to come by, shouldn't it? nt |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. You're absolutely right... |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
63. Money is also the standard medium for labor exchange |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. Makes sense (nt) |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. How's that? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. But someone else can, right? |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Seriously? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. No it hasn't. You have a warped perspective on the history of the world. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
64. And people like me who have no idea how and no ability to build? |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
66. Housing standards have come up, buddy. |
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MrDiaz (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
56. houses are not |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. What? |
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Wait Wut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
47. +1 |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. How are you going to get everyone to give you all the stuff you need to build a house? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Let a computer give someone a loan... |
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Recovered Repug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. So where does the money for the loan come from? nt |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. i like turtles |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
9. What the fuck are you talking about? |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
10. I don't understand what you are saying. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Where does the money to build the house come from? |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. People have to trade their labor or something for the money. It did not grow on a tree. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Do the people who create money have to trade their labor for it? |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Why don't you answer my question instead of asking me questions? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I think that's actually quite obvious. No. |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Money is a means of exchange and a holder of value. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. And should the people who create new stones with holes in them... |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
67. Yes, it is a highly productive job if done right |
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sammytko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. no always. My house was built in 1929 - paid off years ago |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Stop doing that |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. I'm trying to get people to think. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. I suggest that you start by getting yourself to think, then. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
57. Just reading between the lines here.... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
13. If you want a free house we can always help you put up a shack. |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
30. I don't think you understand either money or mortgages. NT |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Dear, chances are I know more than you do... |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Then explain to me what money is. NT |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Money is a universal good which arises in more complicated civilizations... |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Very good. Except that I create my own money. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. True, the value is not created... |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Again, you're confusing the tokens with the value they represent. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Oh dear... |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. And it cuts down on how many exchange rates we have to know. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
33. Surely you are not as naive as you sound in this post. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Oh joy, a long winded rant that has absolutely nothing to do with anything I'm talking about. |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. You picked a really bizarre way to frame your question then. NT |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. No. It hasn't always been so. You could gather a group of people |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I suggest, then, that you ask the question directly, rather than |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Actually, I don't think I even said what you said I said. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. No, I did not assume that you were a dirty commie hippie type. |
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RevStPatrick (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
39. Someone is obviously having a bad day... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
52. "your fucking house" |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. That's not entirely correct. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. hence the "..." |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
61. The economy doesn't have the ability to allocate a house |
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obliviously (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
62. And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon |
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Riftaxe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
65. Interesting stance, care to loan me $100,000 |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
69. Well Sherlock ... |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
70. Sounds like you are due beer and travel money, and many experiences. nt |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 05:03 AM Response to Original message |
71. I agree. We should have a post-scarcity society, like in Star Trek. |
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