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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:31 PM Original message |
Occupy Wall Street To NYC: Drop Charges Against 800 Or We Will March To Court For Every Trial |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. There are many ways to shut an unjust system down. n/t |
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vets74 (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. That is not an Operation Wall Street claim. |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. No argument. But police behavior in these instances — which is now feeding . . . |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 02:24 AM Response to Reply #20 |
44. Incarceration rate and racial profile in US |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. This is precisely the approach that should be taken |
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AngkorWot (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. So they want to place a huge burden on an already strained system? |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. No burden if no charges, no? |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Well it was the Supreme Court that made corporations people, wasn't it. |
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AngkorWot (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Does the Supreme Court handle municipal trespassing and resisting arrest cases? |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. No but they are part of the corrupt system, that will punish innocents |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. It's in the DA's power to drop the charges. |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. did you mean to respond to me? nt |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Doh. |
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AngkorWot (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. It's in the defendants power to pay the fine and get back out on the street to protest. |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. lol and within their rights to bring cases to court. |
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AngkorWot (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Right. |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. JFC, "morally responsible"? |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. It's always a moral responsibility to fight injustice. |
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AngkorWot (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Sure. |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Guilty of a right to peaceful assembly? |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
53. Guilty of being maced for simply standing there? |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Yes, and that would be punishing the system for being a tool of abuse. |
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AngkorWot (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Do you want to protest the city or do you want to protest the corporations? |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. It's about protesting corruption, injustice and inequality. Period. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Your distaste for legal protest and freedom of speech are telling. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 12:52 AM Response to Reply #28 |
36. The cops and the city government are supporting the corporations |
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Saving Hawaii (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 01:19 AM Response to Reply #28 |
41. You're not really 'claiming innocence'. Legally yes, but effectively no. |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
52. In your judgment. Not in most others' here. n/t |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
59. Is that what you would have told Rosa Parks? |
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Saving Hawaii (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #15 |
40. Disorderly conduct usually gets booked and released |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Quite the opposite: they want the charges dropped. |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. The Police should have thought of that first |
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AngkorWot (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I don't think the police get paid that way. |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. To clarify, the police arrest, the DA charges. The DA should have thought of that. |
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Saving Hawaii (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 01:14 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. That's why everybody is contesting. If everybody contests it swamps the DA and they drop charges. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. You're not well-apprised of how the court system works, are you? |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. It goes into the budget. |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 06:11 AM Response to Reply #24 |
45. In Wisconsin, the police and firefighters joined the protests. |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
55. No, they get paid directly from corporate "donations". |
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Saving Hawaii (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. If they put a huge burden on an already strained system DA drops charges |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
58. time to break it |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. Fractal DUer Prisoner_Number_Six suggested this strategy a week ago. |
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Ineeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. And demand jury trials for all of them. Tie up the system. n/t |
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vets74 (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Trial By Jury is only a right for serious cases. |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 01:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
43. If an offense carries a six month jail sentence possibility. a jury can |
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Ineeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 06:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
46. Please explain where in the Constitution it |
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vets74 (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 07:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Always have been, always will be. |
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Ineeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Ah I see... |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 07:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
48. You can demand a jury trial for ANY criminal matter. |
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mother earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. K & R! And guess just how many people beyond those |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
30. Wow...love that tactic! |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
33. This won't work because of the Patriot Act -- you can't screw with the judicial system. |
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Saving Hawaii (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 01:21 AM Response to Reply #33 |
42. I'm certain the DA will love 1000s more BS charges to prosecute |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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a simple pattern (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
61. Your concern is duly noted. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
37. LOL! |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
47. Jury trials please... If they are going to trial, may as well do it right |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
50. Best sign ever!!! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
54. Tee-hee. Using the system against the system. Shut it down. K&R |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
57. I suggested this day before yesterday |
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malthaussen (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
60. Right on, brothers and sisters! |
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