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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 10:39 PM Original message |
Read These Stories Then Tell Me Why I Should Respect People Just for Being Rich? |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Cornelius Vanderbilt was a monster, too. |
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DonCoquixote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. with the notable exception |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. But no better a newscaster than most local talking heads. He's on the national news, & bumped some- |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. It's my recollection that his father Howard was a millionaire before him. |
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ChandlerJr (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. And don't forget Joseph P. Kennedy |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. People aspire to be like them |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. the amounts aren't so small in a lot of cases. |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 05:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Me too, |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Their descendants live, & their position is the result of that ill-gotten wealth. |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Joe Kennedy taught his children a sense of responsibilty. |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 07:10 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. You don't get it. It doesn't matter if they were saints (which they weren't). Good, bad, |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 07:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. No, I do get it... |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 07:14 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. They *are* in the same category so far as class background goes. I didn't put them there. |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 07:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. The HUGE difference is the Bush family are idle, spoiled and douche bags. |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 07:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. bushies may be spoiled, but they're not idle at all. I know, you hate the bushes & love |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. *idle*? Really? So we just *handed* them the presidential chairs |
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emcguffie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. The Bushes made money from and through the Nazis. |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
70. If you're saying their "class background" is more important than how they behave... |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. It's only called "bigotry" by the non-comprehending. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 07:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
33. Being rich while Catholic can make a difference. Puritans believe that wealth sanctifies. |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. The rich create poverty, by taking more than they need, thereby leaving less for others. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. But the secret to a life of wisdom, to a sacred life of balance and peace |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 08:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
64. Bingo! nt |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. Behind every great fortune is a great crime. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 03:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. I agree. Even people like Limbaugh. Sure he might not have stuck a gun in someone's face |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 06:38 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Limbaugh comes from money. Regional bigshots. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
49. So when Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield started Ben and Jerry's |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. The Kennedy's were a crime family. Read The Dark Side of Camelot. n/t |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
10. Where American inherited wealth came from: |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
13. There's the problem right there... NO ONE deserves respect "just for being..." |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I respect people who have valuable roles in society |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 07:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Everyone deserves respect for "being"....then they lose points for greed and inhumanity. |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
42. An all-american philosophy |
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pauljulian (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
50. Re: NO ONE deserves my respect. NO ONE. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
15. Most of the uber-elite got rich by doing something evil. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
62. You can draw another parallel with Assange and Zuckerberg |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. You certainly can't argue with that! |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
16. Henry Ford also sold vehicles and equipment to Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin at the time. |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 02:37 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. So totally true.In his mind, maximum profit was supreme. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 02:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. The mans name was Christie not Ford. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
45. I didn't know that. I thought he would have opposed the soviets on ideological grounds. |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Most of the big capitalists dealt with the nazis *and* the communists. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
17. eat the rich |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
18. You should not respect people for just being rich. Too often |
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DemVoter2012 (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 04:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Not just that... |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
19. All true. And sadly, Henry Ford........... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
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Drahthaardogs (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
29. My grandfather was at Ludlow... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
36. But, but they must be superior. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
57. Exactly. And Donald Trump thinks he can be president. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. His motives only matter to his God. |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
37. Crassus was an insanely huge dick, beyond even being a slave merchant. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. His dickishness lead to his demise when he was killed trying to invade Persia. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
65. If I recall corrctly, he was part of the First Triumvirate and supported Julius Caesar. |
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Sanity Claws (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
38. Behind every great fortune there is a crime |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
39. basing an opinion of many on five people ? |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
41. Don't forget the source of the Bush family money--helping to finance |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. I was wondering why no one had mentioned the Bush family yet! |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. W. made his (only) million by using eminent domain to seize private property in Arlington |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
43. Exactly. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
48. Did anyone ever say that people should be respected for just being rich? |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. I hear fundies say it everyday. It was a central tenet of puritanism. The current right wing |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
66. The Libertarians say it, the Objectiveists say it, the Calvinists say it. |
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w0nderer (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
52. k&r n/t |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
54. k&r&bkmrkd |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. I always liked this quote |
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Utopian Leftist (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
56. Adam Smith, |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. They also need to pay more because they benefit more |
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Puget Progressive (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
59. There is an adage that says |
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Puget Progressive (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Sorry, Sanity Claws |
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oldbanjo (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
67. Kennedy's sold bootleg booze from Canada. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Kennedy did not make my list, because there is nothing wrong with selling liquor. |
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