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Still a Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:02 AM Original message |
What is your take on Michael Vick? |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. He paid his dues, prison for dog fighting when many white collar criminals..... |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. You forgot dog torturing, dog maiming and dog killing by electrocution, drowning, beating, etc. n/t |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. And he went to prison. Paid his Dues. And learned his lesson. |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Sorry, but that isn't quite enough after torturing, maiming and killing. |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Must feel great to be God. Or maybe not, if to err is human, to forgive, divine. |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
40. Count me among those who say his attempts are designed to fulfill the |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. Me as well. endorsement money is on the line--there's no heart in his actions. nt |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
119. I count you among those who don't have a fucking clue what Vick thinks today. |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Oddly, my rescue Pit farted as I read your post. |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:02 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. Ah yes, the Vick fanatic's standard bullshit. |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Mmmmhmmmm. |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Ooooh, an Ossifer! In that case, YES SIR! YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, SIR! |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. BLABLABLABLABLA |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Snappy comeback. Especially the bit about "in your experience" ... |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. LMAO . . . I'll say it again . . . blablablablabla |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
45. All of that is probably |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
104. Hurting those who are under your care isn't forgivable. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. What is your evidence that he "seems like a better person now"? |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. wow, the punishment = the crime in this case. Care more for people and less for animals. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Animals are defenseless - and how dare you tell me who to care for. nt |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
90. How dare you declare what is in Michael Vick's heart? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Wow.. what an attitude.... |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
39. Prosecute dolphin/whale killers as murderers |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #39 |
107. Is that a dolphin brain on the right? |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #24 |
106. In my experience, most animals are better than most humans. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #16 |
42. A kid that |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. what did your son's friend have to say? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. He didn't know |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I wish I could believe that. I really do. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
85. Before I heard |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:09 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Thank you for that reply... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. This is a bit |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Yes indeed... |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. Vick "changed" because he got caught |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Likely true, |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. What year was the training camp? Sorry, I have zero tolerance for abuse |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. The last one. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. Expressing an opinion about his proclivities in dog-fighting... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. Don't care. nt |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. At long as he and the Eagles lose this Sunday...whatever. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
4. I think he's scum - but it doesn't matter. |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
5. Low-life piece of fecal matter. n/t |
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Mira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
6. Not being interested in sports I had no opinion - I left it to the courts - until |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
7. Time will tell. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
110. It does work for many, but there are some types of crimes whose |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
8. One of the best protest signs I ever saw |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
112. Who fans know best! |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
9. Other than the saying "He made a mistake", I don't care all that much |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
10. I think he's disgusting. He can win football greatness and a ton of money, but he's still the lowest |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
12. Playing football well doesn't equal rehabilitation. He played well before he got |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
13. Never heard of him. nt |
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LatteLibertine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
17. I would have hit him with a large fine |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
18. His "rehabilitation" is all PR, not sincere. |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
19. He's a good scrambler and has pocket presence. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:17 AM Response to Reply #19 |
111. He's a murderer. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
20. He is scum. Those that fawn over him because .... |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
21. On the fence... |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
95. No. No animals of any kind. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
23. His "rehabilitation" does not assuage his guilt. |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
25. My dog hates him. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Your dog and mine, too. n/t |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
113. My dogs won't even look at him. |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #113 |
120. I voted for your cutie. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
26. Motherfucking, no good, asshole, evil piece of shit... |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
29. I sure hope he makes it to the Super Bowl... |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
31. Too soon to tell. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
32. The last time I answered that question |
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hamsterjill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
33. I think he is damn lucky to have a job |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
34. I think he should have had half his contract given to the Humane Society |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Great idea, IMO... |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. No, he should've given it to Best Friends, who are still caring for the dogs |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
60. Couldn't agree more - I donate more to Best Friends than any other |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. HSUS lost me long before Vick, that was just icing on the cake. n/t |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
35. He seems to bring out the worst in some on DU ... |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
37. I don't forgive |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
41. I don't go out of my way to pay attention to it. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
43. Does anyone watch the Pro Bowl? |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
44. He's an asshole |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
47. Remorseless for what he did to all those dogs. |
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Robyn66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
48. He is a piece of shit |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. FWIW I agree with you. The hero worship of this monster is appalling to me. nt |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
49. Boy do I feel sorry for you. I went down this road a few weeks ago and got |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
50. Captain of the All-Douchebag Team |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
52. He's a US citizen. Served his time. Should have all his rights. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I tend to agree. Once you are found guilty and do your time per the criminal justice system |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Yeah. It's like a "second class" citizenship. |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. Vick isn't being legally restricted from doing *anything.* |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Well, I think we were responding to the ideas/questions pondered in the OP n/t |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Well, OK, but my point is that there's a difference between having paid a debt |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Well, in this case it isn't so much that Vick is/was Rich, in fact... |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #76 |
92. The nature of the crime also makes a BIG difference in public perception |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Should he? Should we allow convicted pedophiles to adopt children? |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Once, after a vicious subway stabbing, the NY mayor called for stricter gun laws. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Some value humans more than animals. In general I don't - |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I wouldn't give him my dog. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Of course there are "lots of dogs that need adoption" - but if you are really |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. That's why I said "if." |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. In this case he should "automatically lose" his rights. If family and support systems |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #70 |
99. I'm one of these people, I think |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. I think you are asking the wrong question. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Agree - and I would include animal abusers in the "part jail part sanitarium" lifetime sentencing. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
61. Sick fuck, deserves to be shunned by society. |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
64. I resent the fact |
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OmahaBlueDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:53 AM Response to Reply #64 |
103. They are a big deal for a simple reason - they sell a lot of stuff. You don't. |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #103 |
117. I work for Verizon Wireless |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
68. Love what he's doing on the field for my team, hate him otherwise. |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
72. I "resent" anything. But I think it was wrong for the NFL |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
78. Great rehabilitation story. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #78 |
114. Deleted message |
Alamuti Lotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
79. Truly phenominal and imminently entertaining football player, bit of an asshole off the field |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
80. He's Piece of Shit nt |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
82. About 30%. |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
84. Like many an artist, actor, musician, or pro athlete..... |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
89. Total piece of shit |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
91. The only thing I care about is that there should never be any animals near him |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #91 |
96. That's about where I'm at nowadays. |
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WiffenPoof (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
97. Well...One Thing |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
98. Put me down for, "didn't pay a high enough price". |
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elana i am (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
100. still a lowlife scum |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
101. I don't care one way or another about his football career. |
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OmahaBlueDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Everybody who believes that should have made the NFL pay a higher price for bringing Vick back |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #105 |
118. I'll go along with that. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
102. I'd consider him okay once the dogs he tortured let loose on his face... |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
108. He's a douchebag that has a good PR team. |
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OmahaBlueDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
109. Mike VIck is pissed that the law won't let him have a dog for his kid? Guess what???? |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
115. I hope that his change is genuine and not merely for PR |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
116. He's a POS. n/t |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
122. Ugh, he's a dick. |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
124. I think he has turned himself around. An admirable story. |
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