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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 03:47 PM Original message |
Some immigrants are more equal than others. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. "people possessing advanced degrees and foreign nationals wanting to start business in the US" - |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. It's not about immigration per se. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. The employment-based and family-based quotas got split in 1967. It does not take visas |
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The Hitman (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. yessss |
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WilmywoodNCparalegal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 06:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
38. My father is a recipient of one of those 'preferential' categories |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. My ancestors came here |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. Sounds like h1b on steroids. nt |
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The Hitman (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Or not. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Yes |
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The Hitman (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. ugghhhhh |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Yea, how many over 6 years |
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The Hitman (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 05:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Because all H-1Bs are IT people |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Enough are. nt |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm against importing workers with degrees. Lines to get a job here go around the frikkin' block |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. But we've come to depend on cheap software! |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Same here but the degreed workers are worse and I'll tell you why... |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. the degreed workers are worse because the native has gone a lifetime in debt to get her degree |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Smart, well educated immigrants *create* many jobs for Americans, too. |
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The Hitman (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. K&R |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. No. It's the same to bring in an imported worker, as it is to ship out a job to China or India |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Really? You don't understand how US immigrants buy houses, go to restaurants, |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. No, an imported worker contributes to the tax base and economy here. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 07:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Oh yeah, I can see that right now. We're swimming in jobs thanks to imported workers. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. What are you talking about? |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. So you're okay with importing unskilled labor? |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. We already have an entire |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. No, but the higher-paid jobs are definitely a crime to give away, because then the |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Your delusion is what economists refer to as the "lump of labor fallacy". |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Really. Tell that to the mid U.S. who have no jobs anywhere. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. You do realize that you are taking the Republican side of this issue? |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I'm taking the American side of this. American's jobs were taken away... |
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The Hitman (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
9. FINALLY A GOOD IDEA FROM THE GOP |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Of course there'll |
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The Hitman (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Wait just one sec: |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Seems you don't |
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The Hitman (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. WHAT? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Seriously, learn to read and look beyond your backyard. |
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The Hitman (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 05:01 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. They don't break this one |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 12:49 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Sure they don't |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 07:30 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. No of course not. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Then what would qualify for permanent residency? |
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The Hitman (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Hence the preference system |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 07:20 AM Response to Reply #16 |
40. Why do you assume that? |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Yes, nobody picked vegetables until illegal immigrants. |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. I never said I was for illegal immigration. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
20. Don't bet that "professionals from India and China.... will work for less...." |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
43. Why not just go to |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
35. Goddammit, in a depression like this American jobs should be for AMERICANS. |
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astral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 06:32 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. You would think, wouldn't you? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
48. Hmm you realize that a green card holder |
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