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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:20 PM Original message |
Obama is throwing his presidency away with both hands. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. AGREE -- "Now, there is no turning back, for this presidency is finished" and now ... |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
151. Go For It! |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
152. It's enough to make this bunny wonder if what has happened was the master plan from the |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #152 |
200. +1 |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #152 |
205. Gee, ya know, this kind of reminds me of Watergate = Carter = Iran hostages = one term |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #205 |
227. Fitting analogy. I would agree but Obama started out with Dem majorites in the |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #205 |
231. Interesting comments re Carter --- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #152 |
226. Once they could control the Dem Party via Koch Bros/DLC ... didn't matter which party ... !!! |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
193. . |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. LOL! |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I laughed too. |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
93. Yeah, you know what cracks me up? Obama's "got this!" |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Smile though your heart is aching.. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
53. Laughing at what? At the fact that the president is harming seniors on purpose? |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Thanks for posting this. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. I'm not laughing. |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
86. No laughter here. n/t |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Don't you know? Obama's "got this" LOL! |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #90 |
204. Keep on keeping it real, Frankie. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
102. It's happening. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #53 |
105. Betraying seniors and the poor gets guffaws at DU now. Good fucking god. |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Of course it does. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:18 AM Response to Reply #105 |
116. they probably aren't old but the laugh will be on them. when they |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #116 |
185. What? |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #185 |
228. I'm an oilder Democrat currently receiving social security, |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #185 |
233. Divide and conquer |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #105 |
188. No, it's the Reactionary Screamers. At this point, it's laughable. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #188 |
212. Please learn political terminology. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #53 |
144. MF....every DU'er should read your link. It's a real eye-opener... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #144 |
213. That link may be the most valuable post on DU. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #53 |
158. That you could take it that way shows you are not objective at all |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #158 |
175. If the default crashed the economy the cap would be lifted so fast |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #158 |
177. People with actual values aren't neutral on this and Wall Street |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #177 |
196. Well said. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
203. I read your Journal |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
64. You find the 'debt ceiling' debacle laughable? |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #64 |
153. ++++ |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
107. The joke is on you? |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
232. You seem to be easily amused, KittyWampus. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. What is his motive? |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
58. What was his motive for the Great Health Care Swindle? NEOLIBERALISM |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
88. Greed. Legendary greed of the hoarding class. |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. Is that photo in the OP supposed to be the President resigning himself to his defeat? |
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CarmanK (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
6. Disagree, there is time to change the course of this debate! |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Bravo, CarmanK. Wish I could rec your post. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
122. We are one with Wisconsin, but is Obama? |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 07:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
143. obama is exposed. the corporate coup is complete. |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
154. I agree with your scenario of not giving up |
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emsimon33 (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #154 |
249. I agree--Kaine is a sell out. He was a failure as head of the Democratic Party |
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adhd_what_huh (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. Please...just stop already...pretty please. |
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ThatsMyBarack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
146. Welcome to DU, adhd_what_huh! |
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adhd_what_huh (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #146 |
250. thanks |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
9. What I don't understand is that he seems to keep trying to get cooperation |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. I don't think he "cavalierly thrust Social Security..." on the table. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Social Security has nothing to do with the debt or with defaulting. Nothing. n/ |
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CleanGreenFuture (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
80. Why is this consistently ignored in the discourse here? |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Those pesky facts ... n/t |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #80 |
189. Those STUNTED critical thinking skills... n/t |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #80 |
208. It would appear that this bit of disinformation accomodates their narrative |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
94. I understand that. He knows it, too. Don't ask me to explain |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:23 AM Response to Reply #94 |
117. why? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #117 |
244. It's just my sense of him, and I don't agree with your assessment. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:08 AM Response to Reply #94 |
124. Gateley, there is no question. Obama is a good man, a good husband, |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #124 |
155. ++++++ |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #124 |
246. Agree that he isn't a hardball negotiator, which is to our detriment. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Your reasoning is illogical. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Unless you want to. n/t |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
42. Correct. This is a political choice which he is making. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Obama seems to come down on the side of privatizing |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
210. And yet extends corporate welfare status to the nuke industry |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:13 AM Response to Reply #42 |
125. Bingo, girl gone mad. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Yes, it has been used as a political football. Further, even if it had never been so used-IT IS NOW. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. There are at least three viable options if the ceiling isn't raised. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:20 AM Response to Reply #35 |
126. In my view, cutting Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #21 |
159. Exactly, notice the above post pretends there are no Republicans |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. Great post, they are twisting and turning and trying every way |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
70. Wow... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
95. I didn't present "reasoning", I merely stated my opinion. And |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:42 AM Response to Reply #95 |
118. I think he is more than you realize.. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #118 |
243. But again, I don't think he really wants to touch Med/SS, I'm still |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I think it was EASY for him to do |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
73. Not to mention, |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #73 |
160. I agree with the passive-aggressiveness |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #160 |
201. I think he's a power hungry man |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #201 |
211. Fits the profile of the Chicago machine politician, no? n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
97. I have to agree with that, taking the non-conflict option, but |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:53 AM Response to Reply #97 |
135. I think the man is good, too |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #135 |
186. hmm... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #186 |
207. I think you have something there |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 06:33 AM Response to Reply #17 |
141. I agree...I have lost all faith in this man.n/t |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. Did it pain him to set up the Simpson-Bowles ... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
98. I could be wrong, it's just my sense of the guy. nt |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
223. His actions are coherent with his "violent agreement" on G20 Austerity |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
68. Oh, noes! |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #68 |
99. I think he thinks he can smooth it over, and I think he's wrong, but |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
72. He definitely understands the repercussions. n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
103. I can't see how he does but still go along with it. He didn't see |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:42 AM Response to Reply #10 |
130. If that is true then he is not a very smart man |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
134. He has solid constitutional backing to use the fourteenth amendment |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:23 AM Response to Reply #134 |
147. He said in a speech this week that his lawyers told him he shouldn't use the 14th.. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #147 |
191. He didn't get the right lawyers. |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
209. How in God's name could he not understand what the... |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yeah, sure, whatever. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
96. Yeah, me, too, but jeez, I was only objecting to the word |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. Deleted message |
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Dr. King's "beloved community" has been talking to this president |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
74. He "played them off" to show that he is the president of the |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #74 |
91. As usual, his attempts to neutralize right wing criticism |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Deleted message |
emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Hate to break it to you, some things are worth fearing. Republican Control of the House |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:25 AM Response to Reply #30 |
127. Pelosi's House could have raised the debt ceiling before |
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mazzarro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #127 |
176. Democratic party leadership sucks and has been since after Howard Dean |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #176 |
215. So is the criticism of Nader's eval. that both parties are essentially the same |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
15. I'm not usually one to say I told you so but... I told you so. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Counting chickens? |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Clarification: The I told you so was for the opinion above not the possibility of it happening. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Ah |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. It does. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. LOL! Yeah, it's a done deal. Which only means you desperately want this to happen. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. If he touches social programs I would want "this" to happen. Yes. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
214. Your lolling is starting to get a little hysterical. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
20. Obama's bound to lose Pennsylvania! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Except now he has a record. And if he doesn't change course |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Like I said, plenty of people have made fools of themselves making such predictions |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. I wrote this essay about PA. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
235. Excellent! n/t |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:32 AM Response to Reply #27 |
128. EFerrari, here is the problem. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #128 |
179. People want jobs. If the Republican runs on job creation, we're screwed. |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #128 |
187. ++++ Well said +++++ ~nt |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
23. Don't Count Your Chickens Before They Are Hatched. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
29. The republicans thank you for this. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Obama volunteers to dismantle the New Deal but what is important |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. I'm not sure why you've gone the way of the Hyperbolic lately. Lets talk for a second, I am |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Calling people who disagree with you irrational is not an argument. n/t |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Claiming I called you irrational is a lie if that is what you are attempting here |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. As I already posted to you in another thread |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Thanks, But Please Note: You posted that to --SheepShank-- not me. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. On that thread. Here's the link. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Missed that too, i allowed myself to get distracted from our conversation. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
76. + a GAZILLION!!! |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
100. I can't believe after all the evidence people still defends this rightward tilt |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
75. hmm... |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #75 |
89. +Infinity |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #75 |
169. Don't twist my words. You don't anything about the discussions EFerrari & have had this past year. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #169 |
184. hmm.. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #169 |
194. Yes SHE is a great person. lol nt |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
61. You must think it's important because you keep pushing bullshit propaganda like this here. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #61 |
81. If it were just my bullshit, that would be one thing. |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #61 |
216. Projection much? n/t |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
62. It's sick that you only look at these issues |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. It's sick that people have actually forgotten |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
101. You criticize what you perceive as hyperbole and popaganda.. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:46 AM Response to Reply #66 |
131. No one is calling for impeachment. |
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azul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #131 |
183. Well said. |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #131 |
217. "Obama was unable to get his party out to vote in 2010, and he is splitting it with his stance.." |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #62 |
164. It's sick to be out of touch with reality |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #29 |
161. AMEN! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
31. Deleted message |
reformist2 (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
36. This is unfair. Obama is trying to make the best of a very bad situation. |
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MouseFitzgerald (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Are you being serious? |
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reformist2 (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Yes. Quite frankly, we're lucky these programs haven't already been cut in half. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. Don't you remember the 2010 election results? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #56 |
148. Why did Obama put Tim Kaine in as DNC Chair? Why did he allow Ted Kennedy's seat to go to a Repug.. |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
218. I repeat.... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. Fend them off? He OFFERED them up to extremists. He is willing to give them away. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:49 AM Response to Reply #36 |
133. Meanwhile, Obama is trying to sell Congress on TWO MORE TRADE |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
45. "this president has sealed his own fate. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:58 AM Response to Reply #45 |
136. Obama should have gone straight to the people and fired them |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #136 |
219. "...It is utterly incompetent of him to have sat in the White House chewing his cud..." |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #219 |
242. Yes, like he did in 09 when he refused to give the public option |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
46. . |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
50. Not if he gets out of this with no cuts to SS and Medicare. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
85. Yes, there is a microscopic ameoba of delusion that still has hope that he can change. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
197. Sadly, NO. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
51. Finished, indeed. - K&R n/t |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
65. What ''shared sacrifice''? |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
67. *AHEM* It's not over. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 04:01 AM Response to Reply #67 |
137. I will be delighted, Avalux, if I am proved wrong on this. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
69. Don't throw my towel in yet! |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
71. Posts like this pi$$ me the hell off |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:03 AM Response to Reply #71 |
111. No one sat on their asses last November. |
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Fly by night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
77. By lying about his support for medical cannabis in 2008 & then doubling down on the drug war, Obama |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Exactly |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
92. Great post! |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:10 AM Response to Reply #92 |
112. Danke schoen. :^D |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
106. Stunning compilation. John Quincy Adams has wise advice for us all. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:33 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. You're welcome. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 04:08 AM Response to Reply #110 |
139. Thank you, De Swiss. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #139 |
236. You are welcome. n/t |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:56 AM Response to Reply #83 |
115. That is just...painful. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:51 AM Response to Reply #115 |
119. The TRUTH is quite often painful..... |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:54 AM Response to Reply #119 |
172. I do believe that |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #172 |
222. Unless and until.... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 04:07 AM Response to Reply #83 |
138. Great post, DeSwiss. Just wonderful. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #138 |
237. I put that post together..... |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #83 |
145. This should be an OP. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #145 |
238. It was. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #238 |
245. Good! Sorry I missed it. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #83 |
149. DeSwiss...When I watched "Lifting the Veil" months ago..it was heartbreaking the promises broken |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #149 |
171. Thanks for the referral - I will watch it |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #171 |
241. If you find it interesting...please pass it along......n/t |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #149 |
239. I really think it's odd there is even such a thing as a 9/11 "conspiracy" forum.... |
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green917 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #83 |
150. +1,000,000,000 |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #150 |
240. Thank you. n/t |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #83 |
192. What an incredibly depressing list. |
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TeaBagsAreForCups (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
78. K/R. Excellent Post... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
79. Deleted message |
leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
82. Pony. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
104. thank you, seafan. REC. nt |
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bobdawg (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
109. throwing away? |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
113. If he throws it away the only team around to catch it is the Republicans. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
114. But he will always be invited to the billionaires parties! I got to see a billionaires yacht, |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
120. Yes. Obama has failed. |
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grovernerdquist (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
121. But I won't be |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
123. I can't help think that this was the plan. |
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FreeBillClinton (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
129. I'd rather fight against Republicans destroying our safety net |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #129 |
166. I've thought all along that the DADT repeal was one |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:47 AM Response to Original message |
132. with high unemployment we should be LOWERING the age people start collecting SS so they get out of |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #132 |
162. Older people are getting out of the work force |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #162 |
252. that happened to my wife's dad. His company had to lay off most of their workers |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #132 |
165. If Obama proposed that, you'd say he was trying to make the |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:09 AM Response to Reply #165 |
251. who said they would HAVE to retire? |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 04:23 AM Response to Original message |
140. You mean you're on a tear, as in to 'tear apart'? nt |
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whathappened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
142. note to self , |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
156. Deleted message |
swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #156 |
167. Throw in nepotism along with that |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
157. This is dramatics worthy of Republicans |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #157 |
229. I am really tired of this rhetoric, propaganda and shilling though |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
163. K&R He is throwing away our future with both hands. nt |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
168. Here: |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
170. "... this presidency is finished." |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
173. It does seem like that. |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
174. Obama proving the President doesn't matter |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
178. Regretably for us I think the gist of the OP is correct. I have to wonder |
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Jim_Shorts (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
180. The US government is completely and utterly broken (unless your rich) |
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Ed Suspicious (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
181. My nutjob anti immigration, anti obama, pro military, hard core |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
182. I feel sorry for him because he's his own worst enemy - much worse than Republicans. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #182 |
230. And they've been disgusting to him, since before he was elected. n/t |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
190. Obama's throwing himself under the bus for the Banksters. Too sad really. nt |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
195. yep... nt |
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mother earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
198. The GOP must secretly love him, he's continued BushCo policy& |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
199. I believe his 'deal' |
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WiffenPoof (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
202. Geeze...Doesn't ANYONE here understand... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #202 |
206. "the New Deal...the most successful and compassionate piece of legislation in the American history" |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #202 |
224. I am in Full agreement. I cannot see any rational for having put SS/M/M on the table |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #202 |
247. Exactly. He has utterly poisoned the Democratic message, |
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JJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
220. SS is not entitlements |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:19 AM Response to Reply #220 |
253. I wish more people understood that! |
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orbitalman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
221. K & R |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
225. Sad part is the stupid sheepeople who listen to MSM will vote for in 2012. |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
234. And the American people |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
248. I refuse to |
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