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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:28 AM Original message |
"Democrats used to have a solid economic message for workers without a college degree" |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. I don't think the dem party has much to say to any of us anymore - |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. To quote Jon Stewart: |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
23. We've been taken over by shock and awers. |
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The Big Vetolski (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
4. Good post. One quibble. The fact is most public sector workers |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
5. That is the truth. |
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socialshockwave (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
6. "The only unions the Party seems to care much about are in the public sector" |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. B asically abandoned in the Clinton era for middle class "soccer moms"...It sucks. n/t |
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BNJMN (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
8. If I read this right, I think that person would vote for whoever most resembles Chuck Norris... |
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socialshockwave (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Your ageism is showing. |
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BNJMN (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. My post is peppered with 'may' and 'some' and plenty of other |
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socialshockwave (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Ah, my bad. |
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BNJMN (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. No problem. We all do it. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. It's a DEMOCRATIC President who got us into the latest war, and perpetuates the others... |
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BNJMN (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 04:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Breathe, read, try and understand, give the benefit of the doubt, breathe slow, repeat. [nt] |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
42. Or you could try to engage with the reality of Democratic President leading us to war. |
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canoeist52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
10. The Democratic Party ingnores working Americans' needs at it's own peril. |
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BNJMN (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Chomsky had a great thing about the tea party... |
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canoeist52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Thanks for the link. He's right. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Agreed |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. There are tea party pols (including Ron Paul) who complain about corporatism |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
38. Thanks for that. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. The modern Democratic Party doesn't want that 28 white male voter. |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
18. K&R. This is the type of voter Dean was after when he was head of the DNC. n/t |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
19. Thank God the republican party will be there for them. Maybe they |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
20. If someone in that situation even bothers to vote. nt |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
21. There used to be a message to be had for workers without a college degree |
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BNJMN (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 05:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Unions? Or 'here, let's help you get some college under your belt'? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. The "get some college" idea was what Clinton wanted, but I was never optimistic |
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BNJMN (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. True. You can't have an economy where 'everyone' is anything. Also... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Yes; sorry, I was taking that thought somewhere else |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Get an education or job training is just a smokescreen |
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BNJMN (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Industries dry up, they move, thus the need for education. |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:49 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. The hatred stems from the fact that they're economically destructive. |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 05:12 AM Response to Original message |
26. The DEM Party has lost its way, big time. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 06:18 AM Response to Original message |
27. Recommend |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
28. This could be truncated after the first 10 words |
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CaptRandom (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
33. "Don't forget that most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich than |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
35. no money it it, so screw workers |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:06 AM Response to Original message |
37. they still do. it's: fuck you. |
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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
39. What can the Democratic Party actually do? |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:32 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Yep. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Both recent Dem Presidents have been adherents of "Reagonomics" |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. And it's tragic. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. So it's the mandate of the "Democratic" Party is to do no more than administer globalism? |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Actually, political parties, including Democrats, and US governments CREATED that worker's problem. |
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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Democrats and Republicans created third world competition? |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Yes, seriously, THEY put US workers in competition with rightless, coolie labor in 3rd world |
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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. So how did they do it? What exactly should they have done or not done? |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
47. This was especially true in the days of Jefferson Davis. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
51. The Democratic party is ignoring unions. |
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