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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 07:45 AM Original message |
Gang of Six Social Security Proposal is Unprecedented |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes it is. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 07:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Honestly, if a repuke propose this, at least we would have unified Dem opposition |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. Bipartisan means the ruling class is in agreement. n/t |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
48. Bipartisanship seems to have become a code-word for the total capitulation to an extreme |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. His Hedge Fund buddy Michael Rattner said: "Most sweeping overhaul since Ronald Reagan.." |
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SSDA (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Rattner makes me sick |
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SSDA (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Only Obama could get away this. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
4. Under the guise of "reform". |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. If this passes it will be the biggest theft of the American public we've seen. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Next to the TARP. (nt) |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yes. this is being done in a similar fashion. Oh no crisis! Pass this immediately, no details, etc. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Precedent to "quick pass the Bill with little or no debate" was the PATRIOT Act. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Yeah. This kind of governing does not serve the people. |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
59. that's why they blanket us with "crisis" talk. |
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SSDA (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. BINGO! |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
43. They know what works best, that and completely ignoring the publics concerns/wants/needs. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
42. And then wait for the "THANK GOD IT PASSED! otherwise....... |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. It's the shock doctrine, yet again. |
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SSDA (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:18 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. This is theft |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
7. Kick! This post needs more rec's. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Thanks I appreciate it! |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
14. Kick!!! This is very important |
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luckyleftyme2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. what's new |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
18. Kick |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
19. What is a territorial tax system? Never heard of it. EOM |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
20. k&r |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
22. Except for medicaid/SS cuts it seems reasonable. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Hahaha. Don't make me laugh. It also will cut Medicare, lower tax rates for wealthy, eliminate... |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Ok, throw medicare in there as well |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Read the plan. Those loopholes will hit the middle class. It is not balanced, it'san assult |
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SSDA (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Its a GANG RAPE! |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Yes. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
51. You keep repeating that |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. hmmm "reform" in this case means "cut" |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:18 AM Response to Reply #55 |
63. So I take it you didn't read any of the proposal then? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. The Proper Course, Sir, Is To Raise Rates And See That They Are Paid |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Ok, let me repeat this |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. They are eliminating deductions for the middle class and lowering tax rates for the wealthy, get it? |
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SSDA (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Does not matter |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Where are you getting this? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Collecting The Rate, Sir, Means Eliminating Excuses for Non-Payment |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Ok, I want you to read the actual proposal |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. They are reducing the deductions for mortgages, charitable deductions, etc. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. For mortgages on houses over a certain amount and 2nd houses |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Quite Beside My Point, Sir, Which is That Taxes Must Be Increased on the Wealthy |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Taxes are being increased on the wealthy |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Nonesense, Sir: Claims That Rates Will Be Lowered But Loopholes Closed Are Moonshine |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Love that Straw. No one, not one person, has suggested a 90% |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Just throwing out hypotheticals obviously, not the real numbers |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Yes. We don't know why you're defending this plan and calling it reasonable |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. A fact that has been repeated often on this thread is that it targets the poor |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Umm my parents are middle class and donate 10% to their church, they will be hurt by this |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Then they can stop donating |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
27. The deficit commission did not even have enough votes by their own bylaws |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Yep. Schakowsky's plan was great. Of course no one listened. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Exactly. Her thoughtful plan is the opposite of the Austerity plan |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
29. Wonder how many millionaires will step in and help those seniors who'll lose with this plan |
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John Agar (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
31. K & R. We all need to read this. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
33. Do we take to the streets now??????? |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. All signs point to McConnell-Reid passing now and this plan to be the permanent solution |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
35. It was "good enough" for Tom Coburn to rejoin the gang following |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
52. This plan sucks -- let'em know- |
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raouldukelives (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
53. K&R |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
65. K&R nt |
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