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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:08 AM Original message |
You know something just occurred to me... |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. Exactly. The health care plan that was passed was the Republican bill from the 90s. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. At least someone's around to say "no" to stupid Republican ideas. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. No reason to flame you. But the thing is, that whole strategy enshrines |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. He did offer a tip-off today... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I have an instinctive distrust of any politician saying |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I don't blame you. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Do you think a Republican House will do that? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. and then I just saw this... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. I have to get my mom on the phone today. LOL! |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. A well-tested principle, first developed in Vietnam. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. I hadn't recognized it but you're right. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
51. +1000. All we need to hear is "no cuts" that's all. We're still waiting and worried. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. That's exactly right... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Right, and now the whole country is focused on whether our programs |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. You know that is nuts right? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. It's only nuts if it backfires. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. yup |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
4. President Obama is Third Way/DLC material. It's not the Democratic Party in some bigger sense. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Tell it to the congress. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Stifled by Democratic leadership because it gets in the way? |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Then why all the third way/dlc stuff? |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I was referring to 1/3 of ALL the Democrats in the House, not the full house. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Well since PBO isn't in the house his name doesn't belong there. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:56 AM Original message |
That's just silly. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
41. Why? Because it eliminates the labels? |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Pretending that the President, who is the Leader of the Democratic Party, should.... |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Yes, he is superman, isn't he? |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Again, you're having to resort to hyperbole because your argument doesn't hold water. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Whoever reads this will either be pro or anti Obama. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Maybe there's a little more shades to it than pro or anti Obama? |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. Nor Do I Fear Do They Have The POTUS Helping Them Push Forward |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
5. It just further proves that their opposition IS , indeed, personal. n/t |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Indeed. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
8. Those who suggest the President is puzzled are the confused ones, imo. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I think increasingly people are beginning to see that the |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. 'Wealthy,' yes, but more and more I think its about repugs own power, |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. I can certainly see that. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. But at what cost? What people will remember from this circus |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Not if they actually "think" about what he said. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Not very many people pour over the transcripts of his speeches |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Many don't pour over them here, either. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. So, how are people going to "think" about what he said |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. What other resources do we have other than the media? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. But that was my point, people don't do that. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I gotcha the first time. My point is there is a remedy. I think |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Beside the point. They also choose at the ballot box. n/t |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Thanks, Fire, you said it for me. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
57. Speak for yourself. Republicans have been exposed fully |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I did speak for myself, gentle reader. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Those who suggest the President is asking for Republican shopping items... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. TRUE THAT!!!! n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Nope. The problem with Obama working solely in the Republican frame |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #23 |
39. ... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
16. Because they learn fast that they can ask for yet more. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
31. The real answer to your question is that since our party was taken over |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
33. That is the trillion dollar question |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
38. The party is not bereft of new ideas... |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
42. ;) |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
52. Default is the only way the Republicans can end the |
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dmosh42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
53. Obama is as useless as his AG, Holder. Strictly a compromisor and no ideas of his own.. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
55. Why do you assume he's puzzled? nt |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
58. Why everyone should support Obama right now |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
62. Time to catch a tiny clue ... |
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