Clarence Thomas, BFEE

[Octafish]

Lost in Vittergate is this central fact:

The crook Clarence Thomas is Poppy Bush's replacement
for one of the greatest men to ever serve as
Associate Justice of the United States, Thurgood Marshall.



Both men, were I editor of Corporate McPravda,
should not be mentioned in the same book,
let alone the same sentence.

I got my reasons:

Scalia, Thomas & the Kochtopus

Clarence Thomas Fails to Disclose 1991 ($100,000) Citizens United In-Kind Contributions

Will Clarence Thomas Recuse Himself on Health Care Reform?

Clarence Thomas, Health Care Reform, and the Case of the Lobbyist Wife

Will U.S. Judges Get Exposed in Swiss Banking Scandal?

What was Rep. Weiner working on before he was "gated"? (Hint: Clarence Thomas’s conflicts of interest)

Clarence Thomas’ New Robes May Be Orange…

Is Weiner Scandal Retaliation for Clarence Thomas?

EXCERPT...

For months, Rep. Weiner has prompted Thomas to disclose the money his wife, Virginia Thomas made working for Liberty Central, a political organization that has openly opposed President Obama’s health care reform agenda. According to Weiner, Mrs. Thomas’ political affiliations put the justice’s impartiality on the bench in question.

So, while much of the world's attention is rightly focused on pampered Sen. David Vitter, we need to remember Clarence Thomas, made and protected man of the BFEE. May they all, one day very soon, wear institutional orange.

[malaise]

1. Another great thread from Octafish

Kochtopus! Freaking brilliant

Bookmarked - reading about the Kochtopus now. :D

[Octafish]

4. BFEE Spies on Americans like Eliot Spitzer

The data system that nailed Spitzer and prostitution ring

The story seems to have been missed by ABCNNBCBSFixedNutNoiseworks.

PS: Thank you for everything, malaise.

PPS: Kochtopus I borrowed. Ha ha ha ha (maniacal plagiarizing Demodonkey laugh)!!!!

[Donnachaidh]

[phone] n/t

[Octafish]

8. BFEE Domestic Spying & Politics

Congressional Agency Questions Legality of Wiretaps

[Rex]

2. We've let evil people ruin this country for decades, the M$M has a huge

amount of accountability for toeing the line for Big Biz/Pharma (almost every commercial is for drugs or BB) and that sets a precedent for people like Clarence and his wife to make $$$ off of clear conflict of interest violations. Why it has taken this long...is beyond me. If the Dems don't stop Clarence...then we are fucked. The BFEE is stronger today THEN EVER and that is all thanks to our current political structure REFUSING to do the right thing and bring charges against the former administration. Until this is done, America will continue to spiral down the toilet of history.

[Octafish]

9. Eli Lilly, Zyprexa and the Bush Family

Spot-on, Rex. The only ones who can afford to advertise on TV have some healthy profit margins in common:

Larry King interviewed Poppy Bush and talked about drugs in a subjective manner off-air.




It's one of my favorite Larry King moments, Larry's talking to then-president George H.W. Bush about drugs. They're off-air, but the satellite feed is picking up their conversation. At the time, Poppy was about four days away from losing his re-election bid. From the documentary "Spin," the discussion begins at about the 48-min. mark.

For those new to the subject, why Pharma's a big deal for the BFEE:

Eli Lilly, Zyprexa and the Bush Family

Which leads to the other Dope Inc.

[Rex]

42. Oh wow! I forgot all about that! THANKS!

That conversation proved to me that Larry King was just an appeaser for another generation of corporate/political criminals like Poppy. CNN = tool for Big Pharma.

[Initech]

3. There are some seriously truly evil forces at work here.

[Octafish]

13. Seems the Masters are drawn together by something bigger than ideology...

It's like they are in the service or thrall of Satan and/or Mammon.



Rothschild and Freshfields founders’ had links to slavery, papers reveal

Baron de Rothschild and Prescott Bush,
sharing a moment together.

Honor to fight with you, Initech.

[Initech]

16. Heh it's like six degrees of evil starring Prescott Bush.

He's the Kevin Bacon of evil political motherfuckers.

:toast:

[Kaleko]

5. Whoever gets close to exposing rampant corruption at the highest levels

will be eliminated. Either through character-assassination, murder or whatever other means deemed necessary.
At this late stage, I see no other means to restore lawfulness in America than hundreds of thousands of desperate citizens being willing to lay their lives on the line and bravely following the examples set in Tunisia and Egypt.

Fat chance of that happening soon enough to avoid a collapse of epic proportions, or is there anyone here with eyes wide open who still believes in the hope&change thing coming true any day now?

[justiceischeap]

18. If Weiner hadn't posted pics of himself showing his naughty bits online

Character assassination would not be an issue here and he could have done more work in exposing Thomas. Weiner's antics were his own fault... he was just begging to get caught eventually. I don't agree that he should have to resign over this (unless it can be proven that he broke the law in some way) but HIS actions alone have kneecapped him.

[Kaleko]

20. Naughty bits?

I work for a future when calling the sexual organs of half of humanity 'naughty bits' would be unthinkable because all forms of human sexuality have become acceptable as natural and are dealt with in a mature way.

America has been dominated by two types of mind-sets until now: the Puritan and the Gunslinger/Cowboy/Corporate Raider. The first is a holier-than-thou bigot/fundamentalist and the second is a ruthless individualist capable of mass murder for the sake of 'protecting his own turf'. Both types have melded together and created a framework of utterly contradictory ideals combined with unattainable goals that keep the whole world paying the price for their ultimately anti-social behavior.

Calling genitals 'naughty bits' echoes the creed of America's Puritans, and when you say that "HIS actions alone have kneecapped him", I hear the ruthless voice of the Cowboy who denies that it takes the backing of a whole town (Washington) to take someone down for what otherwise would merely be embarrassing to themselves.

[justiceischeap]

21. Is cock & balls better for ya?

I understand that sexuality is a touchy subject in America... believe me, as a lesbian, I know this well. Washington didn't post pictures of his cock & balls on Twitter. That was Rep. Weiner, he did that all by himself. I agree that America gets too involved in sex and sexuality but I personally expect a little decorum from public officials. I certainly don't want to see any cock but especially not my politicians and that has nothing to do with being a puritan and everything to do with wanting to respect someone who is supposed to represent me. I can't respect someone who was dumb enough to think that he could send photos like that to strangers and not be caught.

[Kaleko]

25. I respect your personal preferences,

but the point I was making is a bigger one. I was saying that anyone getting too close to exposing far more socially disruptive crimes than lewd conduct on the internet will become a target for an orchestrated character assassination.

As a lesbian, you are relegated to an existence on the social fringes in many ways and are therefore in a powerful position to step out of the box you've been crammed into and cut loose from the traditional framing that has been passed onto Americans. You can stop using the language that is used to brainwash generation after generation.

[shanti]

23. good grief

:eyes: it's actually an english term.

[Kaleko]

27. Yes, many of the first settlers were English puritans,

and it's that mind-set that I'm addressing.

[whathehell]

30. No kidding...Many of the first settlers in my ancestral European home

prayed with Druids.

It's been a VERY long time since the time of the America's first settlers and

we really have moved on since then.:eyes:

[Kaleko]

38. Not from what I've seen.

No, there is still the old slave/master mentality, and the bigotry in America is absolutely staggering.

Same old, same old, only with new and improved tactics used by the CIA, plus vast improvements in surveillance technology.

[whathehell]

45. Then it seems you've seen very little

and in fact probably reside on the other side of the pond,

so you might want to replace this melodramaticly negative

vision of America, with one from someone who , along with three

prior generations, has lived here all of her life.

"Master Slave"??...You MUST be kidding!!....America actually BROKE with the British tradition (and their hideous class system)

in addressing their employers as "Mister" or "boss" rather than "Master", as did the brits, during

the industrial revolution and Britain is STILL more class conscious than America and I have that on the word of brits

near and far from me, e.g. a British boyfriend years ago repatriated

when he realized that, in his words, "However good an engineer I am, there are

places in the UK that will never hire me 'because of my Geordie accent' and you know,

that would never happen here".

America has always been more of a "meritocracy" than the Uk (and most of of Europe prior to WWII)

and I believe that's a rather widely accepted fact*.

The actor Michael Caine talked openly of class restraints on his own career

in England, and said how how grateful he was to America for giving him the

opportunities he could never have gotten in Britain.

Racism"?...First of all, this isn't "Free Republic" and we're not unaware of the racism in Britain,

Ireland and all over Europe, and how it's caused immigration protests, the emergence of nationalist

movements, and sharp moves to the political Right.

In 2008, The United states of America elected a Black man to it's highest office.

When the UK elects a man of color to it's highest office,

you can talk to us about "racism".


*Check the comments of British anthropologist, Kate Fox

in her book "Watching the English".

[Kaleko]

46. You live in your own private world,

unable to respond to what I'm actually saying, merely shadow-boxing with phantoms of your own making.

"Racism"?? My ass.

And no. I do not live across the pond.

[whathehell]

47. No, I think you live in yours and

As I said, America just elected a black man to our hightest office,

When the UK does the same, you can talk to us about racism.:P

[whathehell]

50. Actually,

I did respond to what you said and you know it.

It's you who aren't' able to respond to my points.

Tip:It's best to educate yourself on the issues before "taking on"

someone on the web...You really have NO idea to whom you are speaking.;)

[whathehell]

24. Yeah.."naughty bits"...and they don't "echo America's puritanism" ,

They're part of British slang.:eyes:

"and when you say that "HIS actions alone have kneecapped him", I hear the ruthless voice of the Cowboy who denies that it takes the backing of a whole town (Washington) to take someone down for what otherwise would merely be embarrassing to themselves"


OOOOHHH.."The ruthless American cowboy"!...Love the imagery, Kaleko, but the fact is, "cowboy" is a job title, not a pejorative, and the majority were/are not particularly "ruthless".

A lot of us, the majority of his constituents, in fact, do not want Weiner to resign...Having said that, most of us realize that this mess is mainly

of his own doing.

[Kaleko]

29. Cowboy in general parlance denotes much more than a job description.

Most people understand that it's one of the two most prevalent American archetypes.

[whathehell]

33. I realize that, but you used

the morally negative adjective of "ruthless" as a modifier.

The meaning of Cowboy, in it's slang sense, is closer to "reckless"

or "wild" and that is not necessarily the same.

[whathehell]

34. Just curious, but

What is the "other" most prvalent American archetype

in your opinion?

My sense that it will also be negative is growing

along with my sense that you are not American, would

I be correct in that assumption?

[Kaleko]

36. Thge other archetype is the Puritan/Fundamentalist.

You are incorrect in that I have dual nationality, British and American.

Cheerio.

[whathehell]

41. I am correct in my first assumption

and half correct in the second, as it's clear you identify with the British

side more than that of the American, whether or not you grew up there.


I have to laugh at these supposedly dual "archetypes" as they are simply

two sides of the same coin and equally incorrect in that one is outdated

and the other is far too limited demographically and geographically

to be an "archetype" of anything.

[Kaleko]

44. More foolishness.

I don't identify with any nation or its boundaries. If anything, I consider myself a human being and a world citizen.

If you can't see the relevance of the two types in this context, you're missing a perspective that can yield quite a few further insights for people with a mind less hung up on defending their fatherland.

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[Octafish]

40. Remember Daniel Casolaro? He tagged 'Them' as 'The Octopus'

George W. Bush, Harken Energy and Jackson Stephens, ca 1979–90

Here are a few people who investigated the Bush Family Evil Empire, one of the last things they did in this life:

Gary Webb hurt the BFEE’s feelings by tying the CIA's Iran-Contra gang to the crack cocaine epidemic in America's major metropolitan areas. To the Bush gang, telling the truth made Webb an enemy.

Daniel “Danny” Casolaro — Researched BCCI and the Inslaw/PROMIS Affair, found that George HW Bush had ties going around the world and back through Iran-Contra, Iraq-gate, the October Surprise, Watergate, Vietnam, the Bay of Pigs and Dallas. A “suicide.”

Abbie Hoffman — Yippie of the 60s turned into an investigative reporter in the 80s, researched and wrote about “October Surprise” allegations involving George HW Bush, Bill Casey and Robert Gates doing a deal with the Ayatollah Khomeini to delay the release of the USA’s Iran embassy hostages in 1980. The pretty good overview appeared in Playboy in 1992. A “suicide.”

Steve Kangas — Researcher and writer who started “Liberal Resurgent” web site dedicated to naming names like Richard Mellon Scaife and telling the truth about what was happening to America. Wrote the seminal “The Origins of the Overclass” which detailed the role of the CIA in preserving the privileged positions of the nation’s wealthiest individuals and corporations. A “suicide.”

Jim Hatfield — Researcher and writer who penned “Fortunate Son,” an unauthorized biography of George W Bush that included allegations of cocaine use, planted by Karl Rove, who knew that Hatfield, an ex-con would be discredited. The last thing Hatfield wrote “Why Would Osama Want to Kill His Ex-Business Partner?” that detailed bin Laden threatening to crash a plane loaded with explosives into the G-8 summit in Genoa Italy in July 2001. Bush slept offshore aboard a US warship and the meeting was guarded by SAMs. A “suicide.”

Mark Lombardi — Artist and researcher who developed “Global Networks” or “Social Network Diagrams” which illustrated and chronicled the relationships between many of our day’s shadiest characters, institutions and treasons. One of his works graphically charted Osama bin Laden, Sheik Salim bin Laden, James R Bath, Texas Gov George W Bush and HARKEN Energy (above). A “suicide” in March 2000.

Cliff Baxter — was the Number Two guy at ENRON. An Air Force Academy graduate, Baxter had told friends he was going to cooperate with investigators. Guess that would’ve really hurt Ken Lay, huh? Well, he would’ve really hurt someone else even more: George Walker Bush and George Herbert Walker Bush. After he passed out from an overdose, a “suicide” by gunshot.

Then there are those who opposed the rush to war with Iraq who died under mysterious circumstances, like Mr. John Kokal.. He fell to his death from the State Department roof.

[Kaleko]

43. It's a huge and impressive archive you have assembled over the years, Octafish.

May you live for many, many years more. I think you qualify as a National Treasure.

[SpiralHawk]

78. Check

ty

[midnight]

6. This is an interesting piece of info. I was not aware of...

"But notice now what you may not have noticed before. How allegations that Anthony Weiner sexually harassed a young African American woman just appeared out of the blue at the very moment when Weiner’s campaign to discredit Clarence Thomas was peaking. Think some more about what you’ve learned that you may not know, or have forgotten, about the history of the players in this drama and their nexus with the story of the man whose name came to be synonymous with sexual harassment in the American culture 20 years ago. Think about how distracted the media have been from the story of Clarence Thomas, in spite of the efforts of Anthony Weiner to keep a spotlight on Thomas."

[Octafish]

51. It's as if there was a huge database of every politicians' every phone call, email & conversation...

Well, every Democratic politician. You know how the top GOPs feel about bipartisanship, let alone democracy.



Government Spying on Americans -- Doesn't Any One Care?

At the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology...

"I don't want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return."

-- Sen. Frank Church

Frank Church and the Abyss of Warrentless Wiretapping

[One Voice]

7. K & R!

Thanks for the info!

[Octafish]

53. Tell Ginni they'll never get her money in Switzerland.

Then book him, Dann-o!

Don't Be Distracted by Weinergate: The Scandalous "Judicial Insider Trading" of Justice Clarence Thomas, Wife "Ginni"

By Brad Friedman
June 13, 2011

He had inappropriate sexual entanglements with a number of women and lied about it repeatedly to the American people. Yet nobody --- save for cone Colorado law school prof--- seems to be calling for Justice Clarence Thomas' resignation for some reason.

SNIP...

As we reported in January, Thomas appears to have "knowingly and willfully" filed falsified Financial Disclosure Forms which withheld disclosure of nearly $700,000 his wife received from the rightwing Heritage Foundation for the better part of the last 20 years. Only once it was pointed out publicly this year did Thomas bother to file "self-initiated amendments" to the forms he had signed just above the legal warning in bold and all caps which reads: "NOTE: ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO KNOWINGLY AND WILLFULLY FALSIFIES OR FAILS TO FILE THIS REPORT MAY BE SUBJECT TO CIVIL AND CRIMINAL SANCTIONS (5 U.S.C. app. § 104)"

While there has been little indication that law enforcement is actually investigating the crimes of the U.S. Supreme Court Justice (which, as we pointed out in January, are punishable by up to $50,000 and/or 1 year in jail for each instance of falsification), last Friday when Thomas' Financial Disclosure Form for 2010 was released, the matter appears to have gotten shadier still, leading at least one government watchdog organization to describe what Thomas and his wife Virginia "Ginni" Thomas may be been doing as "Judicial Insider Trading."

Connecting the dots, it would seem the couple made huge profits from Thomas' participation and insider knowledge of last year's Citizens United ruling at the U.S. Supreme Court, as we'll show you below.

CONTINUED w Links...

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/612974/don%27t_be_distracted_by_weinergate%3A_the_scandalous_%22judicial_insider_trading%22_of_justice_clarence_thomas%2C_wife_%22ginni%22

You are most welcome, One Voice!

[G_j]

10. K&R

great post!

[Octafish]

54. What's in Switzerland, Luigi?

Banks, Dino?



Will U.S. Judges Get Exposed in Swiss Banking Scandal?

Exactly, Luigi!

[MinM]

11. Thomas finally released the details of his wife's income...prompted in part by Rep. Anthony Weiner

Following a time-honored Washington tradition of dumping required but embarrassing information on a Friday night before a major holiday, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas finally released the details of his wife's income from her year or so working for the tea party group Liberty Central, which fought President Obama's health care reform law. His new financial disclosure form indicates that his wife, Virginia, who served as Liberty Central's president and CEO, received $150,000 in salary from the group and less than $15,000 in payments from an anti-health care lobbying firm she started.

The disclosure was apparently prompted in part by Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.), who had been needling Thomas (including on Twitter) for months to disclose how much money his wife earned from Liberty Central. That's because challenges to Obama's health care reform law are likely to end up before the Supreme Court sooner rather than later, and if Thomas and his wife benefited from her income working against the bill, the justice has an enormous conflict of interest in hearing any legal challenge. Thomas had failed to disclose Virginia's income on his financial disclosure forms for 20 years; under pressure from Weiner and others, he had recently amended old disclosures to reflect hundreds of thousands of dollars she had earned working for the Heritage Foundation, the conservative think tank that also opposed Obama's health care plan...

Read more: http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/05/clarence-thomas-health-care-reform-weiner

k & r

[G_j]

12. +100

[RufusTFirefly]

15. Weiner?? He flashes his naughty bits for all to see. Whatever he says can't be right.

End of story.

American media consumers are about as sophisticated as lab rats.

[whathehell]

26. Do you have any comparisons of "naughty bit" flashing and

and public responses to it in other countries?

Until you do, you might want to bag the predictably negative stereotype of American_______.

This time it's "media consumers" but since I'm confident it could be anything, I left the line blank.:shrug:

[whathehell]

28. Flashing your "naughty bits for all to see" doesn't speak well for something called "judgement"

I don't know a country where it does, but maybe you can enlightne us.

America Trashers are about as knee-jerk as pavlov's dogs.

[Octafish]

55. The United States should officially apologize to Anita Hill.

What one critic wrote:

We Should Have Listened To Anita Hill

06-19-2011 by Linda S. Carbonell

A few months ago, Virginia Thomas, wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, left a voice mail for Professor Anita Hill, who teaches social policy, law and women’s studies at Braideis University’s Heller School for Social Policy and Management. Dr. Hill gained national notoriety during the confirmation hearings for Justice Thomas when she testified that he had subjected her to sexual harassment. Mrs. Thomas’ message suggested that it was time for Dr. Hill to publicly apologize for her testimony twenty years ago.

It would be more appropriate at this point for people to start apologizing to Dr. Hill. Her testimony should have raised red flags about Thomas and he should have been investigated more thoroughly. Sexually harassing subordinates is turning out to be the least of his ethical handicaps.

Ian Millhiser of Think Progress is continuing to uncover unethical behavior in the Thomas household. TP first reported on Thomas’ attendance at the Koch-sponsored fundraiser. Then we learned that the Thomases “forgot” to declare her income on essential financial disclosure notices. Now, it seems that wealthy right-wingers like to do favors for the Thomases.

Texas real estate tycoon Harlan Crow, whose company Crow Holdings has litigated in the Federal Courts, is a close friend who donated the $500,000 for Ginny Thomas to start her Tea Party PAC. He also has give Thomas a $19,000 Bible which belonged to Frederick Douglass. Crow has put money into projects that Thomas approached him about – a cannery museum and a Savannah, Georgia, library dedicated to Thomas. The Thomases have been guests at Crow’s homes along with major Republican supporters and politicians.

Mike McIntire of the New York Times is also digging into the Thomases’ “friends with benefits” – the monetary kind.

CONTINUED...

http://lezgetreal.com/2011/06/we-should-have-listened-to-anita-hill/

"Friends with benefits." Hah!

[Dawson Leery]

14. k/r

[Octafish]

56. A vertically-integrated criminal enterprise.

From snaked-out bad luck broke homeowners to well-bonused Wall Street warmongers, they control all levels of monetized federal policy.

So, how do they move their money to Switzerland?

Know your BFEE: Phil Gramm, the Meyer Lansky of the War Party, Set-Up the Biggest Bank Heist Ever.

[Denzil_DC]

17. K&R n/t

[Octafish]

57. Clarence Thomas voted to squeeze every last penny out of wait-staff.

Supreme Court Rules For IRS On Restaurant Tips

Hypocrisy, thy name is GOP.

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[Octafish]

59. My mistake. Thanks for the kind correction, sduderstadt!

Find any other ones on the thread? Feel free to let me know and I'll apologize for my mistake and correct the record.

As for your record, sduderstadt: Show me one post on DU -- in this or any forum -- where you posted something "to condemn Thomas."

Dude? Anything? Ever?

[Name removed]

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[Octafish]

65. The facts show that you have never posted anything on DU critical of Clarence Thomas, sduderstadt.

Just sayin'. Dude. And I used the DU Search on General Discussion and the Google.

[SDuderstadt]

66. Good for you, dude...

do you really think the House Judiciary Committee takes their cues from you, dude?

There's a lot of things I've never posted on DU. However, unlike you, I take the time to fact-check what I DO post.

[sabrina 1]

75. So, what DO you think of Thomas' egregious conflicts of interest?

What do you think of the Thomas' setting up of sham corps which benefited from the Citizens United decision?? And what do you think of the disappearance of one of those sham Corps after some attention was paid to it in the media?

Do you think a SC Justice should be making decisions for this country, that will affect us for generations when he is clearly conflicted and clearly profiting from his rold on th SC?

How do you feel about a SC Justice refusing to recuse himself from the Citizens United case now that it is known that Citizens United helped him, to the tune of $100,000, get the confirmation that put on the court 20 years ago?

You appear to not be concerned about the mountain and mounting evidence of corruption and possibly criminal activities of a man sitting on the highest court in the land, but extremely concerned about one error out of so much other accurate material presented in this thread and elsewhere. Why is that?

[SDuderstadt]

81. He should be impeached...

Sabrina.

Your faux outrage is noted. In the meantime, I doubt that he will be impeached, but, if he is, it won't be because of posts here at DU. Real world, Sabrina, real world. That's what counts. You know, like Netroots Nation.

http://www.netrootsnation.org/

P.S. Senator Al Franken says "hi".

[SixString]

61. You're better off if you just put the"Dooood" on ignore...

He provides nothing here but a contrarian view,regardless of the subject.
Don't waste time responding to "Doooood"
Just ostracize these contrarians, and maybe they will go away.

[SDuderstadt]

62. Yeah, facts aren't...

important. They're so "contrarian".

[Octafish]

67. You are absolutely right, sduderstadt.

Facts are paramount, big dude. That's why I put the links and source what I claim.

When it comes to my opinion, I try to do the same -- back it up with facts.

For instance, what I should have said above:

Supreme Court voted to squeeze every last penny out of wait-staff.

So. Show me where you've done something on DU to shed light on Clarence Thomas, sduderstadt?

[Name removed]

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[Octafish]

69. No deflection. I've posted dozens of articles and links on this thread.

Besides fact-check me, what have you done?

Show me where you've added anything to what we know about Clarence Thomas. Oh. Yeah. It doesn't exist on DU.

You are right, sduderstadt. It isn't about you.

[SDuderstadt]

70. Dude...

show me where any member of Congress has credited one of your posts for sparking them to action.

I just came back from Netroots Nation. Oddly enough, I didn't see you there.Real world, dude, real world.

[Octafish]

72. So show me where on DU you've posted something critical of Clarence Thomas, sduderstadt?

Who knows? It may help Congress learn something it needs to act upon. It certainly might enlighten interested DUers.

[SDuderstadt]

73. Dude...

People here (myself included) already despise Thomas. I don't think preaching to the choir is particularly effective, especially when you can't get basic facts straight and continue to misinform DUers. Like I said, I seriously doubt that members of Congress rely on your posts on DU for the latest developments, dude.

[sabrina 1]

76. Speak for yourself. Who are you to tell DUers what is

of interest to them or not. Clearly judging by the recs you do not speak for DUers, you certainly do not speak for me.

When you have earned the reputation for Octafish has for his integrity, his love for his country, his honesty and his incredible research over the years, your opinion will matter. All I ever see from you are negative comments about other DUers.

Why don't you start your own threads instead of constantly spamming others'? If you have something to say create your own OP.

[SDuderstadt]

79. I see you don't believe accuracy is...

important. What a surprise.

I'm pretty sure Congress doesn't read your posts either.

[sabrina 1]

77. Here's how these facts affect Congress. When I and others

call members of Congress this week, we will have FACTS about the Thomases to inform them of. I will be doing that tomorrow and every day until something is done about this criminal sitting on the SC. And I have many DUers, such as Octafish to thank for the fact that when I am asked for information, I can provide it. And of course, I am just one of many DUers who will be doing that. You don't know anything about what people here are doing, or what access anyone has to members of Congress.

But one thing is certain, I could never refer to anything you have provided to answers the questions I am asked. Why don't you do something useful?

Netroots Nation?? Lol!

[SDuderstadt]

80. You might want to fact-check...

Octafish's "information" about how Thomas voted in Fior d'Italia v US. He got it backwards.

Some research.

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[Hotler]

19. k&r n/t

[Octafish]

64. Just remembered Associate Justice Clarence Thomas attended Bohemian Grove!

In regards to a post above, I found a most interesting link on DU.



It really helps explain how the dude's votes always seem to benefit a certain class of individual.

Justice Thomas reported a wealth of gifts

In the last six years he has accepted free items valued at $42,200, the most on the high court.

December 31, 2004|Richard A. Serrano and David G. Savage | Times Staff Writers

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has accepted tens of thousands of dollars worth of gifts since joining the high court, including $1,200 worth of tires, valuable historical items and a $5,000 personal check to help pay a relative's education expenses.

SNIP...

He also took a free trip aboard a private jet to the exclusive Bohemian Grove club in Northern California -- arranged by a wealthy Texas real estate investor who helped run an advocacy group that filed briefs with the Supreme Court.

Those and other gifts were disclosed by Thomas under a 1978 federal ethics law that requires high-ranking government officials, including the nine Supreme Court justices, to file a report each year that lists gifts, money and other items they have received.

Thomas has reported accepting much more valuable gifts than his Supreme Court colleagues over the last six years, according to their disclosure forms on file at the court.

CONTINUED...

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/dec/31/nation/na-gifts31

Always wanted to be a fly in the woods at The Bohemian Grove.

[lonestarnot]

22. eeek nasty.

K & R!

[Octafish]

71. They're like royalty, or something.

The Felonious 5



Advocacy Organization ProtectOurElections.org Urges FBI To Investigate Justice Clarence Thomas

Group Charges Thomas And His Wife Engaged In Criminal Conduct

WASHINGTON, May 25, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The advocacy group ProtectOurElections.org sent a letter to the FBI in Washington, DC on Tuesday calling for an immediate criminal investigation of Justice Clarence Thomas and his wife Virginia for what appears to be clear violations of criminal law. http://www.velvetrevolution.us/images/Clarence_Thomas_FBI_Letter.pdf

Specifically, the group raises three distinct criminal violations—first, Justice Thomas falsified 20 years of judicial financial disclosure forms by denying that his wife had income sources; second, he engaged in judicial corruption by receiving $100,000 in support from Citizens United during his nomination and then ruling in favor of Citizens United in 2010 without disclosing that fact or disqualifying himself; and third, he conspired with his wife in a form of "judicial insider trading" by providing her with information about the result of the Court's decision in Citizens United prior to its issuance, which she then used to launch a new company to take financial advantage of that decision to benefit her and her husband.

"We have asked the FBI to treat Justice Thomas in the same way that other Americans are treated when they violate federal law," said attorney and spokesman Kevin Zeese. "During Justice Thomas' tenure, literally hundreds of citizens have been prosecuted for making false statements on forms and in person, and many of them were sent to prison. For example, just a few months ago, congressional aide Fraser Verrusio was convicted of making a false statement on a single disclosure form. In our letter to the FBI, we point out that Justice Thomas falsified 20 years of disclosure statements and may have done so to keep litigants in the dark as to his wife's employment. And then when Citizens United came before the Court, Justice Thomas kept quiet about its $100,000 support, ruled in favor of Citizens United and conspired with his wife to parlay that decision into hundreds of thousands in income for her new company. This makes a mockery of our judicial system and cries out for accountability."

The letter to the FBI was accompanied by the group's complaint to the Missouri Bar seeking to disbar Justice Thomas for unethical and criminal conduct. It provides great detail and documents supporting the claims of misconduct. http://www.velvetrevolution.us/images/Clarence_Thomas_MO_Bar_Complaint.pdf

SOURCE www.ProtectOurElections.org

[sabrina 1]

31. It is because of Thomas. I don't think there's any doubt.

The campaign against him began around Feb right after his letter to Congress askin Thomas to recuse himself from HC cases before the SC.

[PufPuf23]

32. The crook and perv Clarence Thomas is the subject of this thread. kr nt

[amborin]

35. K&R

[suffragette]

37. Octafish, Gotta say I love ya a bit

Exceptional post exposing the history and depth of corruption from the replacement of one of our best Supreme Court justices with one of our worst to the current misdirection going on now. Agree with all you wrote.

Wiki actually has a well-written page on Thurgood Marshall:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurgood_Marshall

Thurgood Marshall (July 2, 1908 – January 24, 1993) was an Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court, serving from October 1967 until October 1991. Marshall was the Court's 96th justice and its first African American justice.

Before becoming a judge, Marshall was a lawyer who was best remembered for his high success rate in arguing before the Supreme Court and for the victory in Brown v. Board of Education. He argued more cases before the United States Supreme Court than anyone else in history.<2> He served on the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit after being appointed by President John F. Kennedy and then served as the Solicitor General after being appointed by President Lyndon Johnson in 1965. President Johnson nominated him to the United States Supreme Court in 1967.

He spent his tenure on the highest court in the land establishing a record for supporting the voiceless American. He began his early career fighting to dismantle racial segregation and as an Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court, Thurgood Marshall left a legacy that expands that early sensitivity to include all of America's voiceless.<2>

[librechik]

39. makes me cry every day that they won't go to jail. Ever.

They made me hate what this country has become.

[suffragette]

48. A new day, a new corporate friendly decision by CT

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts-law/supreme-court-limits-securities-fraud-lawsuits-blocks-claims-by-janus-investors/2011/06/13/AGu2F7SH_story.html

By Associated Press, Updated: Monday, June 13, 8:17 AM

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court has cut off a lawsuit by investors against Janus Capital Group seeking to hold the company liable for allegedly false statements in some Janus mutual fund documents.

The court’s 5-4 ruling Monday reversed an appeals court decision that allowed the lawsuit to go forward.


At issue is whether the adviser to a mutual fund can be held financially responsible for false statements in the fund’s prospectus.

Justice Clarence Thomas said that securities law does not permit that kind of lawsuit. The court was ideologically divided, with the four liberal-leaning justices saying the suit should be allowed.





http://blogs.forbes.com/danielfisher/2011/06/13/supreme-court-rejects-broader-liability-in-janus-case/
The plaintiffs’ winning streak in securities cases before the U.S. Supreme Court ended today when the justices ruled that liability for misleading statements ends with the entity that “makes” a statement, not anybody who had a hand in creating it. The decision in Janus Capital v. First Derivative Traders bolsters the court’s 2007 Stoneridge decision, in which “aiders and abettors” like banks and corporate customers were protected from lawsuits.

In rejecting broader liability the court majority also rejected the position of lawyers for the federal government, who argued that the three units of mutual fund manager Janus Capital were so closely intertwined that they all should be subject to suit over alleged misstatements about mutual fund trading.

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The Janus decision came down to what Congress meant when it used the word “make,” as in “make” a statement. The majority, led by Justice Clarence Thomas, held that “make” applies to the entity that has absolute control over a statement, including whether it is distributed. Even if somebody else wrote it, the person who delivers the statement “makes” it. In this case that was Janus Investment Fund, the distributor of Janus mutual funds, even though the offending words were actually written by the much more profitable advisory arms of the company. The “corporate formalities were observed” keeping the entities separate, Thomas wrote, repeating the court’s deference to the often paper-thin walls between mutual funds and their advisors in the 2009 case Jones v. Harris Associates.

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The dissenters, Justices Breyer, Kagan, Sotomayor and Ginsberg, agreed with the government that “make” is akin to “create.”



But hey, now there's news that there's a problem with Weiner's car tags or something.
Clearly, much more important than the decision above.

[Wilms]

52. ^

[Divine Discontent]

74. talk about horrible trade off....... hero for zero