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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 03:55 AM Original message |
Why is a program we have all invested in considered an entitlement.... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. I often think this when listening to US news |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. The RW - the entitlement |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
3. It is rw propaganda word play. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You have nailed it. Republicans are quite good at creating negative connotations |
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SugarShack (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Yes, repubs are great at "framing" and the dems are great at allowing them, instead of correcting it |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. To me the problem is that Dems have to spend ALL their time correcting Republicans |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
6. We need to embrace it |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. That is pretty much what I said in my last email to my Repub Senator. |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
9. They have framed the argument and now we are trying to undo that. |
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uvrays (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
10. maybe it should be considered a public program you are forced into paying for. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
11. I only use the term entitlement for programs that people who didn't pay into can get benefits from |
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uvrays (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. same here. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. which is propagating the rightwing framing. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. It's accurate. AFDC, food stamps, etc. are fundamentally different than UI, SS, etc. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. But you are entitled to your pay check for work done. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #18 |
35. The employee/employer relationship is a CONTRACT |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. The problem is that social welfare programs are not "entitlements". Nobody is guaranteed |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. +1 |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. But, you see, that is fine with them. THIS is where the real class war is... between poverty and |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Agree 100% |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. So then you are OK with the negative slant toward poor people, but not the middleclass? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. You're the one seeing a negative slant, bobbolink. I don't feel one when I call a spade a spade. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Given that *I* am the one suffering the damage, don't you think it is time for "progressives" to act |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
15. The word's fine. The meaning's been distorted. People ARE "entitled" to their benefits. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
16. Because you're entitled to receive benefits from it |
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MaeScott (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. See "Liberal". nt |
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DiverDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
19. I've been paying in since 1971 |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I have been paying social security since the early '60s. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
22. Are you OK with "Entitlement" being used for Food Stamps, Subsidized housing, Head Start, etc. ? |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. It's not my take on it... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. My point is that the middleclass is just fine with the safety net being vilified, as long as *their* |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. An entitlement is "a right granted by law or contract |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. PeaceNikki's post is 100% accurate |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
25. Yes, we are vested and that means we have earned |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
28. The Republicans took |
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Curmudgeoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
31. First step to killing something is to vilify it. And the first step to |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
33. Repugs are the KINGS of catch phrases |
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Oasis_ (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Believe me |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I agree with you, however, all the media hacks love using |
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