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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 09:48 AM Original message |
President Obama Had To Be Dealt The Crappiest Hand In American History |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. Things can change for the better, but not with the |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I Think We Are In An Irreversible Decline |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. and still dropping |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. Unemployment was still at 19% in 1938 |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. and we don't have another "war to start" as far as I know... |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. Or the resources to wage one, that were available at the time |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. WW ll Proved The Efficacy Of Deficit Spending |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. It dropped by 40% from 1933–1937 |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. But it was still at 14.6% in 1940 |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Under Obama, unemployment real unemployment keeps increasing |
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CanonRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
7. Second crappiest anyway. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I Addressed Roosevelt |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. The result of any war is always in doubt. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. My Turn, Sans Ad Hominem Attacks |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
45. You could make the same arguement for the Vietnam War |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. That's The Exception That Proves The Rule |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Another exception is the American Revolutionary War. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I Think You Also Have To Look At The Motivation Of The Combatant And The Stakes |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
8. I'm glad it's him |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
10. So, why is he getting knee pads over the party that served it up? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I Don't Think There Are Any Good Options |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #10 |
22. "getting kneepads" is YOUR characterization. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
47. You did |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
11. Agreed. BUT |
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boxman15 (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
14. It's right up there. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
15. If you discount Lincoln and Truman and FDR |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Truman, Actually Got A Very Good Hand |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Sure, right. 'About to win a war' means he had to be the one |
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inchhigh (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
18. He was "delt" a few Aces |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. he dropped EFCA right away |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Precisely |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
31. He Came In As The Greatest Liquidity Crisis In Eighty Years Was/Is Unwinding |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
19. and then he played that hand |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
20. Stage 6 |
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Loge23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
23. This is true, but he hasn't handled it well. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
25. Yeah, that Lincoln had a smooth ride, didn't he? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I Wasn't A Big Obama Fan During The Primaries But I See Some Folks Won't Let Bygones Be Bygones |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I was disagreeing with the premise of your OP |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. That Was A Thoughtful Response And I Apologize |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. No problem |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
26. Very possibly you are correct, however let us remember |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I Feel As Sorry For Him As I Do Jimmy Carter |
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marlakay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Nice guys are eaten up by republicans |
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rms013 (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
28. In my dreams |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
38. You get dealt a crappy hand, throw out the bad cards |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. If It Was Five Card Poker He Was Dealt A 3, 5, 9, A Jack ,And A Ace |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
42. Don't make excuses when none are needed. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Maybe I Should Have Refined My Point |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
44. No Doubt About It |
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Proles (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
49. I don't think it's entirely Obama's fault. |
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andym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
51. He had a bad hand, not the worst |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
52. I wholeheartedly agree with the title of your OP but not its contents in general |
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