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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:00 PM Original message |
Arnie Duncan's Plan: Dumbing Down Teaching? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hey amborin |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. :) |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. it is OBAMA's plan, Arnie Duncan is just an employee doing the bidding of his boss. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Scary, isn't it, that the Democratic Party has fallen so far. n/t |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 12:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. It's actually the World Bank that's pushing it worldwide |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'm beginning to wonder who was Obama's worst cabinet pick. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 07:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
34. I never wondered, but then, |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
6. LOL! the un-rec crew has swooped in |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. Arne isn't a teacher, he's never been to "teacher college" |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. The odd thing is most professors in universities have never had any teacher training |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. But that's the nature of the beast. Most administrators spent |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. TFA teachers are "killers." What a crock. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. I'm that experienced veteran teacher you're talking about. The TFA teacher make a serious difference |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 01:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. . |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. That isn't the same damned thing as being a public school teacher |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. I know. That's the point |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
9. why does this guy scare the ever loving shit out of me..I sincerely worry for our children .. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
10. Americans have forfeited their freedoms for a pocket full of mumbles such are promises... |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm a teacher. I'm a hard core, pro union, dinosaur, traditional education teacher. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. You wouldn't like them if you knew the whole plan is to deskill the profession |
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ChicagoSuz219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 07:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
36. Ahem... you might want to rephrase your last sentence... |
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janet118 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
13. Actually some of these ideas sound good to me . . . |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
20. (shrug) Education departments. Nuff said. |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
21. TFA candidates are recruited |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. TFA teachers leave in droves, after few yrs; kids need experienced teachers, not novices hired |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. the point being that one of the arguments |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. no, the same argument cannot be made |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. statistics . . . |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:00 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Veterans |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. One of the most important aspects of TFA |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Reality check: those numbers aren't that different than traditional track teachers |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 01:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. The districts pay TFA $2000 a year for each TFA trainee. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
24. K&R although I am frightened to read up on this topic. |
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unhappycamper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
29. Think of it as the new prole plan. n/t |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
32. Arne, there is already a glut of newly certified teachers who can't find open positions! |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. "The Irish have a saying . .. . |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
33. And the assault on education continues |
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