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meegbear
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:39 PM Original message |
Did Bankrupt Runaway Prius Driver Fake "Unintended Acceleration?" |
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benld74
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. WHy dont u go buy his old Prius from the dealer? Find out yourself,,, |
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CountAllVotes
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. lol!! |
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951-Riverside
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. If its being sold at a reasonable price I'll buy it. n/t |
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meegbear
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. OK, but only if you douse yourself w/gasoline and test if you're flammable |
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polpilot
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. #1 Didn't turn off key #2 didn't put car in neutral #3 DID call 911 & ignore instructions. |
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Bluerthanblue
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. funny how the way he supposedly stopped was to |
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TheDebbieDee
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Doesn't this car have a keyless ignition? And, does it do any good |
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. #1 'Keyless ignitions, of course, can be turned OFF #2 Transmission 101: P,R,N,L1,L2: |
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TheDebbieDee
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Thu Mar-11-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Maybe you should check out the explanation thread............. |
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polpilot
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Thu Mar-11-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Confirmed what I stated: (1) shift to neutral and/or (2) turn off engine |
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Statistical
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Fri Mar-12-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #28 |
54. A prius can be turned off. A Prius can be placed into Neutral |
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Hepburn
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
72. +1,000... |
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Fumesucker
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. Extra butter please.. |
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Dappleganger
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. Do you have *any* idea just how many people in CA |
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Juneboarder
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Fri Mar-12-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
84. It might be easier to guess... |
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Jennicut
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. The only way to tell may perhaps lie in the investigation of the car. |
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RobinA
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. This Sounds Like |
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Jennicut
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Don't know unless Toyota does an acutal investigation instead of stonewalling. |
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Midlodemocrat
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. Having driven Priuses, I never believed this guy. |
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gateley
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. It happened to Steve Wozniak in his Prius - it was the first Prius incident that |
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Midlodemocrat
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Kill switch or shove the car into neutral. |
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gateley
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. You don't think Wozniak learned that in driver's ed? Why would he make such |
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Midlodemocrat
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Thu Mar-11-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. I'm sorry. I missed the thread where Steve Wozniak was a Prius guru. |
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harun
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Fri Mar-12-10 08:42 AM Response to Reply #41 |
50. He's a systems guru and he could reproduce the problem. As a |
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Midlodemocrat
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Fri Mar-12-10 08:50 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Excellent. Hyperbole much? |
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harun
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Fri Mar-12-10 09:51 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Jeez, save the drama for your mama. |
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Midlodemocrat
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Fri Mar-12-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
91. LOL. |
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NashVegas
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #50 |
61. Does That Fact That Woz Has Repeatedly Re-Created The Bug Say Anything? |
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Midlodemocrat
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Fri Mar-12-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #61 |
90. Why would you bring facts into this discussion? |
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Tesha
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Thu Mar-11-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. Something quite different happened to Steve Wozniak. |
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notadmblnd
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. Wow! Generally they repossess your car when you get 3 months behind |
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hughee99
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I imagine the repo industry is probably backlogged right now. |
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notadmblnd
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Still if he filed bankruptcy on it in 2008, they should have taken it then |
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Midlodemocrat
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Thu Mar-11-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
43. Not sure about that. About a year ago, I had been paying the |
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TeeYiYi
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Fri Mar-12-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
77. So, what did you do?... |
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Midlodemocrat
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Fri Mar-12-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #77 |
93. LOL. No. I didn't. The guy had already gone to their house |
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tammywammy
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. It was an anonymous tipster |
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elocs
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. So, since this trouble how many of us have checked on how to stop our vehicles, |
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Lance_Boyle
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. FWIW, none of the Scion-branded vehicles are affected. n/t |
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elocs
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I know that, but knowing how to stop a car with a stuck accelerator is a good thing to know, |
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Statistical
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Fri Mar-12-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
55. Exactly. |
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Lance_Boyle
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
59. no doubt! n/t |
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obxhead
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Thu Mar-11-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. Anyone that does not know how to stop a car with a stuck |
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jayfish
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. Low, Low, Low. |
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Sebastian Doyle
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
15. Well, you gotta admit, it's sure funny how all these Toyotas are suddenly "going rogue" |
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jayfish
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. But Are They Suddenly Going Rouge, Or... |
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Pithlet
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Never heard about it because they weren't in the news. It doesn't mean they didn't happen. |
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Saturday
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
17. I heard the 911 tape and he appeared to be clueless. |
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la_chupa
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
19. or it could be a smear campaign to discredit him |
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LostInAnomie
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
23. After all the bullshit Toyota has been doing to try to cover their asses... |
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Pithlet
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Agreed. And I can't believe that smart DUers are jumping on the Faux News Fakers bandwagon. |
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Bluerthanblue
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
24. hate to admit this, but that was my first thought after seeing |
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greyl
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Thu Mar-11-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. He also said he was afraid it might rollover, and afraid he'd get rear-ended. |
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TorchTheWitch
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Thu Mar-11-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
48. it's surprising how many drivers have no idea what neutral IS |
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sammytko
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Thu Mar-11-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Thank you! I took drivers ed in the 70s and do not remember being taught |
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Fumesucker
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Fri Mar-12-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. It's interesting and illuminating that the reason you have to push the brake pedal to shift.. |
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doc03
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
25. I said he was a gold digger when I first heard the |
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JBoy
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Or they should star in a movie |
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closeupready
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Thu Mar-11-10 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
34. Wait, this 'tip' doesn't make sense. I thought bankruptcy discharges debts, so how can they have $7 |
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JTFrog
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #34 |
71. Not if you want to keep your stuff. |
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Romulox
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Thu Mar-11-10 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
39. They could've broken the Prius contract in bankruptcy; OP is rubbish. nt |
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Midlodemocrat
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Thu Mar-11-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Doesn't discount the other $693,000. Just sayin' |
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Romulox
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #42 |
60. Basic tort law: one must demonstrate an INJURY to recover money. |
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greyl
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Do you think he'll have an easier time getting out of his lease for that Prius? nt |
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Romulox
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Fri Mar-12-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. Not really. |
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Hepburn
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Fri Mar-12-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. He could do that now by going 7 or a mod of the 13. n/t |
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Midlodemocrat
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Fri Mar-12-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
92. I know. My argument with this guy, even before hearing about the bankruptcy |
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Hosnon
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Fri Mar-12-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
80. And if the bankruptcy is a Chapter 13, it's likely he was no longer behind on the payments. nt. |
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Thu Mar-11-10 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
44. I heard the 911 call and the operator asked him a couple of times if he put the car in neutral. |
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Brickbat
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Thu Mar-11-10 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
47. Note to self: Clear all debts before something bad happens to you. |
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Fri Mar-12-10 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
51. Deleted message |
Dappleganger
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Fri Mar-12-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. +1 nt |
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Political Heretic
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #51 |
66. Seriously. Sometimes, especially when it comes to class issues, there's really little difference |
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joeybee12
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Fri Mar-12-10 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
58. The guy says he's not gonna sue, because when you sue, there's |
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sufrommich
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. When did he say that? nt |
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JTFrog
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Fri Mar-12-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
79. In the email pictured in the OP for starters. |
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joeybee12
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. It was on a different thread...he was saying it on CNN... |
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Romulox
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Fri Mar-12-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
89. I think a lot of our Junior Attorneys are overlooking the INJURY element of a tort lawsuit... |
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Political Heretic
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
62. POVERTY IS NOT A CRIME AND POOR PEOPLE ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY CRIMINALS |
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Fumesucker
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. How does a poor person accumulate $700,000 in debt? |
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Political Heretic
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Poverty is not a permanent identity. He accumulated it by once being not-poor. |
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Fumesucker
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Didn't I imply that with my post? |
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JTFrog
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Fri Mar-12-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Who said the debt was discharged? |
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Hosnon
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Fri Mar-12-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. Did you read the article? They got caught up in the housing boom and bust. nt. |
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Political Heretic
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Fri Mar-12-10 08:47 PM Response to Reply #81 |
96. and? |
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Democat
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #62 |
73. And poor people commit crimes as often as rich, right? |
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Midlodemocrat
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Fri Mar-12-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
95. He's not poor. Not in the least. |
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
67. Meanwhile, Toyota is suing its former attorney to hide secret documents he has. |
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Hepburn
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Fri Mar-12-10 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
78. So if he filed a BK in 2008, there is no case number? |
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Hosnon
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Fri Mar-12-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. That's the petition. A case number is only assigned after it is filed. nt. |
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Hosnon
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Fri Mar-12-10 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
83. Sorry - this doesn't fly. The car was included in the Chapter 7 and, unless reaffirmed, he |
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Romulox
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Fri Mar-12-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. He obviously reaffirmed on the debt if there was money owing on it and he retained it... nt |
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Juneboarder
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Fri Mar-12-10 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
85. All this talk of Toyota... |
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Romulox
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Fri Mar-12-10 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
86. That website is engaged in character assassination, as far as I'm concerned... |
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Mike 03
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Fri Mar-12-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
88. Hopefully the Event Data Recorder will shed clues. |
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onenote
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Fri Mar-12-10 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
94. Some posts in this thread have the faint smell of the old "welfare queen" argument |
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