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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 04:51 PM Original message |
Poll question: Men and Abortion |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. Everyone is voting |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
290. You think we would EVER let women have a say if we were the ones having the abortion? |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #290 |
328. Hell No. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. Absolutely yes |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. So...you mean "no"?...n/t |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. No, I mean "Yes'. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm a guy who thinks that the government shouldn't be making decisions like this |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. I mean as an absolute right I would say no |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. Ah, then you're saying that women should NOT |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Neither men nor women should have recreational sex |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
68. WHAT!! |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
140. People are allowed to do whatever they want, and live by whatever standards they want |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #140 |
155. No, they're not |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #155 |
165. Ooooh, so close: EXCEPT WHEN DOING SO VIOLATES SOMEONE ELSE'S RIGHTS. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #165 |
180. you mean you've noticed |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #180 |
182. I confess: not sure what you mean. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #182 |
190. I'll just quote you ;) |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 03:11 AM Response to Reply #165 |
227. Have you forgotten PROHIBITION? |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:06 AM Response to Reply #165 |
229. Oh Contrair |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #229 |
294. And that was a GOOD thing??? I consider it a great error & source of shame. -eom |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
80. Procreation or abstinence? |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #80 |
144. I was glib earlier |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #144 |
158. Deleted message |
bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #158 |
163. I'm a virgin. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #163 |
169. Well, then, at least you're consistent. |
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jakem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #163 |
246. well, technically... |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #163 |
302. Now THERE'S a shocker. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #302 |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #336 |
342. . |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #342 |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #144 |
174. ROFL n.t |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #144 |
301. So then, GLTB people shouldn't have sex? Because they can't get married? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #301 |
345. No, they are all virgins because they don't have vag/penile intercourse. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #301 |
353. That's an entirely different discussion |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #353 |
359. I did no such thing. But please respond to post where I give you a detailed, reasoned response. |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
86. 'cause gawd says so? |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. Just have to say it |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #147 |
157. Now that's a strong reaction |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #157 |
161. And part of my standards dictate that someone who makes statements like |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. So if I wanted to live by your standards I should go get laid at the first opporrunity? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #166 |
170. No, frankly I don't give a shit what you do. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. Deleted message |
Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #173 |
175. No, I'm expressing my opinion right back at ya. nt |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #175 |
207. Than what makes your opinion ok and mine offensive? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 12:52 AM Response to Reply #207 |
221. My opinion is that it's offensive to make statements on how others "should" run their sex lives. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:44 AM Response to Reply #221 |
239. The political compenent comes into play if I support their plans |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:12 AM Response to Reply #207 |
231. Your opinion isn't technically "offensive"... |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:46 AM Response to Reply #231 |
241. I will acknowledge that a lot of right wingers have this opinion |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #241 |
254. I didn't mean to imply you're a "secret freeper".... |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #241 |
304. Actually, |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #166 |
250. Have you ever had the opportunity? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #157 |
171. You don't know the answer to that. Here's mine: No, I actually DON'T think that. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #171 |
178. See this is where you don't get it |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #178 |
181. The question is an irrelevant strawman, since I never said anything like that. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #181 |
184. Ok - I guess we'll pretend we haven't discussed this issue many times |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:28 AM Response to Reply #178 |
338. Well I'll answer it. Provided that, in giving up religion, you and your ilk |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
156. "Neither men nor women should have recreational sex" |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #156 |
251. No kidding. |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #156 |
305. . |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
308. Ok, I doubt you'll respond to this, but I'm gonna give you a reasoned reply: |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. In order to protect the most people, sometimes nice people get screwed over |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. It is a womans body and haven't us men screwed up enough in this world? |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. "haven't us men screwed up enough..." |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. Do I get the final say on any medical procedure a man wants or needs? |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
248. No, you get one vote on it, out of 200,000,000. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #248 |
255. Really? Should we be voting on each other's medical treatments? n/t |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #255 |
276. Yes! It would massively benefit America if you did. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:00 AM Response to Reply #276 |
337. This sub-thread concerns specific medical procedures. n/t |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #248 |
256. 200,000,000 people got a vote on the medical procedures you have had? |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #256 |
274. You'd have to dig through the depths of British law to find out. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #274 |
289. No list then. Okies |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #289 |
309. Can you provide me with a list of all the names of women who've had children in the US |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #309 |
310. Still can't provide that list of people who voted on your medical procedures |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #310 |
325. No, I can't list the entire populace of Britain in 1945. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #325 |
327. LMAO |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #325 |
331. I'm still waiting to hear *what* the vote was |
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JetCityLiberal (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. No. Never. |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. No Way |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. men get to decide before they unzip |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. Question for those voting No |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Physical Self Determination. NO ONE has more control over YOUR body than YOU. -eom |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Agreed |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. We are not talking about 2 independent bodies. The fetus is not independent. Women are not forced |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:59 PM Original message |
I would agree |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
65. No one has more control of a woman's body than she herself does. -eom |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. That's circular logic. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Yes, a woman has more rights to her own body than the dependent fetus. Clear? |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. You won't like the answer |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #83 |
98. Once again, when does the State have medical authority over a prisoner's PERSON? |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #98 |
109. You used the phrase "willfully obtuse" downthread |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #109 |
119. It's really simple. Who has more control over what happens to your body than you? -eom |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:57 AM Response to Reply #98 |
245. The state gives unwanted medical treatment all the time |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #245 |
268. and you've heard of due process too! |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #83 |
267. ah, then you've heard of due process |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #53 |
257. True but irrelevant |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:11 AM Response to Reply #45 |
230. No, we are talking about one body: a woman's |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #230 |
249. You're missing the point. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
55. That's simply incorrect. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Prostitution is an act of commerce. Drugs are illegal substances. When can I control YOUR person? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Well, if you mean a single individual when you say "no one" then I agree with you. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
122. And if prostitution and drug use are to be illegal |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #122 |
129. Nice analysis on prostitution and drug possession. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #129 |
153. nuh uh |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #153 |
187. Forgive my minor grammatical error. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #187 |
265. so, you've read Roe v. Wade |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #265 |
269. Roe resolves the issue based on a right to privacy. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #269 |
278. obfuscation |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:13 AM Response to Reply #153 |
232. Excellent post |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #129 |
185. I just want to say |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #185 |
193. Let me be clear: |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #193 |
271. and in what universe would this be true? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #271 |
273. Once again, I must apologize for a mistake. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #273 |
284. so, how much of a chance of death can we compel you to accept? |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #273 |
335. More misogyny |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:14 AM Response to Reply #129 |
233. What a bunch of anti-choice talking points |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
177. Yeah, well it SHOULD be a legal principle. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #177 |
191. You'll get no fight out of me here. NT. |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Only African Americans should have a say about what happens |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Bingo. When someone else has dominion over YOUR physical body, it's called slavery. -eom |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Thank-you! |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. Someone give this woman a prize! |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
67. Yes, it is. What exactly do you call the dominion a mother has over the parasite infesting her? |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #67 |
106. HER perogative. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #106 |
131. What if it is a person? Have you considered that you might be wrong? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #131 |
150. Until it has a cerebral cortex, it's not a person. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #150 |
214. What if your definition is wrong and mine is right? |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #67 |
188. You call it PREGNANCY, of course. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
149. Scary that this isn't obvious to more people. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
234. Exactly! Great point! |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Our society controls peoples' bodies all the time |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Bullshit. Their movements are restricted. We cannot experiment on their BODIES. -eom |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. There are limits, but there are measures of control and influence |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. So give me an "acceptable" circumstance when someone else controls YOUR body? -eom |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Easy |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Wrong, wrong & wrong. Drugs are objects which are illegal, prostitution is illegal commerce, vacs |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Yes they are illegal |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. That is commerce. We are talking about who has physical control of what happens to your BODY. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. You have a very limited definition of things "happening to your body." |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Is it legal to deny medical care to prisoner's BODIES? Do we experiment on their BODIES? |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. no |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #75 |
91. If you think a fetus is an independent person, that is your opinion, not fact.. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. "Until it is independent of the mother's body, it's "rights" are not equal to hers." |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #94 |
105. It's HER BODY, duh. You ask the most inane questions. -eom |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #105 |
126. No, what proves that the rights of what's inside and needs to be aborted... |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. Excuse me, do your sperm have rights independent of you? -eom |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #128 |
133. Are my sperm capable of becoming fully grown humans without fertilizing an egg? |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. Is the fetus capable of becoming fully grown without a woman's body? -eom |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. Does a fetus have the same DNA as its mother? |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. So why isn't the fetus independent of the woman's body? -eom |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #94 |
198. The mother was here first |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #91 |
100. Um...no. I agree that it is a fact that the fetus is not independent. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #100 |
107. When a fetus becomes a person? That is a matter for OPINION. -eom |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. Glad we agree. So you do see that the real argument is over that, right? NT. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #111 |
116. Everyone has an opinion. Only I have ultimate physical control of my own body. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #116 |
123. That may be the case but it misses the point. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #123 |
134. Egads. The fetus is not independent. Are your internal organs independent? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. I assume this is in response to my post. (edit: Sorry, it is my browser that is messing up.) |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. Well, until physical independence can be proven, opinions are moot. -eom |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. Huh? The critical characteristic is personhood not physical independence. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #141 |
142. Again, when a pregnancy becomes a "person" is opinion, not a medical fact. -eom |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #142 |
146. Right. Which is why it is the crux of the debate. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:21 PM Original message |
Ok, I'll leave that one to the religious clerics. Who also don't own my uterus. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
151. Alright. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. Define "person". -eom |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #152 |
164. Legally, a person is an entity that cannot be deprived of life without |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #164 |
172. These are philosophical ruminations I'm not interested in. If my body is obligated, I get final say |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #172 |
189. Sigh. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #189 |
192. Wha? So who's body are we talking about? Yours? - eom |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #192 |
194. The fetus'. If the fetus is a person, it has a body of its own. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. If MY body is medically required, MY opinion is the only one that matters. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #195 |
196. But that fails to consider the fact that the fetus' body is also medically |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #196 |
200. This is crazy talk. Fetuses have opinions? Have you polled them? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #200 |
204. Of course not. Like many things, it's a legal fiction. However, they are usually |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #204 |
205. Excuse me? You think someone else should have dominion of my body & I'm supposed to be civil? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #205 |
210. Yes I do. Thus is the essence of the free exchange of ideas. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #210 |
212. But my opinion says that my son, a person, needs your 2nd kidney more than you. Who decides? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #212 |
213. I do. Because it is my body. My kidneys are separate entities but not entities |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #213 |
216. But that's YOUR opinion, not mine. Why doesn't my son's right to life take precedence? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #216 |
264. Sure, it may be my opinion. It may also be medical fact. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #264 |
293. Sorry, your ideas about how a fetus is not part of a woman's body seem outlandish, to put it mildly. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #151 |
201. And that's precisely why the fetus can NOT be a person -- by YOUR |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #201 |
202. The personhood of the mother does not have to be forfeited for the |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #202 |
333. Of course it does -- |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #107 |
154. When it attains a working cerebral cortex. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #154 |
168. Sounds reasonable to me. But I don't know either. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. So a john has sex with commerce? |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Willfully obtuse. -eom |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
93. Actually, I'm having fun at your expense because you're basically contradicting yourself. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #93 |
108. Bullshit. I'm saying that a woman has physical control over her own body. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #108 |
121. Why doesn't a woman have control over her body when it comes to prostitution? |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. What's w/the sideline hooker talk? Is sex illegal all of a sudden? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #121 |
160. Because the laws are wrong and based on archaic Puritan bullshit... |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Who the heck names their kid commerce? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Yep, Commerce P. Worthington. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #87 |
101. He hangs out with his friend from Britain |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #61 |
258. Yes it is commerce |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #56 |
347. Prostitutes are still free to have sex. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. see no. 46 |
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tyedyeto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
208. Ummmm... first thought is the insurance industry |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #208 |
211. No they don't, they only control what they will PAY for. -eom |
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tyedyeto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #211 |
215. Do you have the $6000 per day extra to pay for ... |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Here |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. That's not at all what we're talking about |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #40 |
57. I really can't understand the distinction |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
82. Does a fetus gestate outside the body? |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. Well I wasn't really asking a question to inform myself |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #96 |
110. We're mostly understanding one another here |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. Embedded in that assertion |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
79. Mamatoto |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. Are you in favor of legalizing prostitution? |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. You missed the poll? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Excellent |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. ok |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
90. Just how many strawmen fit on the head of a pin, anyway? |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
203. Those are BEHAVIORS, not physical/medical conditions |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #63 |
316. Not the same... |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
85. Extreme. That's an interesting word choice. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
102. I like it. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
124. I see where you're going with this, and I agree! |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
159. The father may get an 'opinion', but that's IT. It's the woman's body, it's the woman who has to |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
15. All your choice are belong to the women |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
167. a slogan for the next wave |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
16. Segregate our society on gender lines! Obviously the only solution! |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Crazy Tree |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Why stop with gender? No individual should have any say in what anyone else does. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. We're talking about |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. I'm with ya! Women ONLY should make laws for women. Men ONLY... |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. When men get pregnant |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Actually I'll agree with that |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
58. For once (or twice, but who's counting) I agree with you. NT. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
17. Answer: yes. Legal principles are not gender limited. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Then |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. how about whether vasectomies are LEGAL |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. OK |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Unfortunately not |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:39 AM Response to Reply #21 |
238. Or more accurately, legislsation regarding such matters is not limited by gender. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
18. Yes. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
24. I want |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
60. As mentioned upthread that's a bad analogy |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
206. No, that doesn't work because we're talking "force, against one's |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #206 |
260. Good point |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
35. To clarify what you mean... |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
43. 80% "NO"....Whoohoohoo...n/t |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
47. Legalities, no. Opinions, yes. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. I agree! |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. So if there were a law about racial profiling |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Not a Democracy |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #74 |
209. no -- see my post just a bit upthread re vasectomies being legal |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #74 |
261. Look |
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ends_dont_justify (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
78. Wow.... |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Let me be the first to say: |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. ... |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
92. Buh bye now |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #78 |
99. I don't agree with your opinion |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #78 |
114. You sure made the point about why it's nobody else's choice. |
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Kool Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #78 |
225. Urine doesn't come out of the uterus. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:16 AM Response to Reply #78 |
235. Oh frigging boy |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:19 AM Response to Reply #78 |
236. Also, take a human anatomy class -- urine does NOT come out of the uterus |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
307. So those of us who had birth control fail... |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #78 |
320. Holy Crap!!! Urine comes out of the uterus? Christ on a cracker |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
89. My Point |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #89 |
113. You called out the men |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Ya think? hee...eom |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. NAHHH!!! Tee-hee!!! |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #113 |
199. Gettin' close. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
97. If you care about the votes of men like me who support reproductive choice |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
103. As voters, yes |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #103 |
112. My Point |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #112 |
143. But you know that isn't how the world works |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #143 |
179. No one - NO FUCKING ONE - gets to decide to take away another's rights. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 03:17 AM Response to Reply #179 |
228. Yeah, they do. All. The. Time. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #228 |
262. I'm seeing a big disconnect between what people believe ought to be the |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
104. No. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
118. misread the damned question |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #118 |
125. You Get It! |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #125 |
130. I bin gettin it fer several decades, sister ;) |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. We would love to move to Canada |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #118 |
183. You know what, I change my answer. You're damned right! |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
120. I am a white male which should not matter . |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
145. No, and I'm a man. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
148. ABSOLUTELY NOT! Not until they have a WOMB. |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
162. Perhaps a more revealing set of questions |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
176. I like this.. |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
186. No. This is one of those things in life that's just not fair, but it is what it is. nt |
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GreenEyedLefty (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
197. Neither gender has the monopoly on reason |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 12:47 AM Response to Reply #197 |
219. Idea!! |
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suigeneris (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
217. I'm for universal equal rights... |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #217 |
218. Wow! |
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Betty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:23 AM Response to Reply #217 |
237. I don't want another WOMAN deciding for me either |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:49 AM Response to Reply #237 |
243. I can't fathom why your point is lost on so many. Thank you. NT |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
220. Can't we all get along and give this debate a rest? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
222. Here's the solution: Every pregnant person gets to decide about any pregnancy taking place |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #222 |
252. Logic! |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
223. Yes. Whether a society values a liberty is determined by the members of that society. |
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LSdemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
224. Other: only to the extent that the right to an abortion implies other fundamental life choices |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
226. Unless the woman is incapacitated for some reason such as... |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
240. It should not be mandated by law. |
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Smooth Operator (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:47 AM Response to Reply #240 |
242. No |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
244. Post-menopausal women do not get a voice in this debate either |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
247. Should women be allowed to vote on whether it's legal for men to murder men? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #247 |
270. i'm horrified you equate abortion with murder... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #270 |
272. You need to rethink most of that. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #272 |
277. we are arguing abortion and mediacal decisions should not be subject to any vote, period |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #277 |
280. Murder is the most extreme example available of an act with no women involved. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #280 |
285. Democracy?! |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #285 |
311. Yes, democracy. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #311 |
318. I can recommend some reading for you |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #280 |
286. except "all medical decisions" are NOT VOTED ON. that's the point..... singling out women to |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #280 |
295. ah, you brits just don't get it ;) |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #295 |
312. A constitution is just another form of law. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #312 |
315. and a sausage is just another form of pig ... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #315 |
326. I think you're going round in circles. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #326 |
330. well, there's nothing like a blatant assertion to settle an issue |
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hiaasenrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
253. Yes. And to prove that the "men shouldn't have a say" argument is nonsensical.... |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #253 |
259. "I couldn't care less whether abortion is legal or not." |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #253 |
266. How stupid |
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Matsubara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
263. Should men have the right to vote? of course they should. |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
275. Men shouldn't be allow to vote... |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #275 |
279. How is THAT democracy |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #279 |
281. Speaking of Bizarro worlds.... |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #281 |
282. It shouldn't be voted on. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #282 |
288. Canada |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #282 |
296. Yes it should be a RIGHT |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #296 |
297. You are really wrong about how "rights" & our Constitution work. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #297 |
298. nah, Nederland is just pretending again |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #298 |
314. Response |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #314 |
319. "Response"? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #319 |
346. Canadian |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #297 |
313. Clarify |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #313 |
348. Your ignorance of the Constitutional process & it's content are overwhelming. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #275 |
299. Hilarious |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
283. No, but the man should have the choice to disavow all responsibility for the child |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #283 |
287. THIS pro-choice Feminist |
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insleeforprez (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
291. My analogy |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
292. Yes. Just as soon as THEY are the ones getting pregnant, and having THEIR bodies.. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
300. Male voting NO here. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
303. LASTLY!! |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
306. I think life should be treated more than just a tally on an expense sheet. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #306 |
349. Yeah, because us silly girls treat our whole lives just like that, huh? |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
317. I voted "no," but thanks anyway for a wedge issue to split DU into a meaningless flame war. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #317 |
321. Are you kidding? Laura Dern split DU into a flame war. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #321 |
322. Thanks Midlo! |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #322 |
323. Oh yeah...and Lastly! |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #323 |
343. Actually, there are some who make a career out of dividing Progressives with wedge issues. |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
324. Fuck no. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #324 |
332. Men can make all our decisions... |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
329. No. Zero. Zilch. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
334. Men who care about this need to work for improved women's rights and social status |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:40 AM Response to Original message |
339. Of Course They Should. To Say Otherwise Would Be Blatantly Sexist In My Opinion. |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
340. I voted no - as a guy, it's none of my business |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
341. This thread is an excellent example of why this issue, and many others, |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
344. I said no but.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #350 |
355. You have NO right to call me names |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
351. Fuck no. |
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JTG of the PRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
354. I don't have a uterus... |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #354 |
356. Thank-you! |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
357. Why should women who aren't involved have any say either? |
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358. If You Read |
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