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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:35 AM Original message |
BREAKING: Monica "Keys To The Kingdom" Goodling - Granted Immunity |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. Oh my. |
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corkhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes! |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
3. Wow, I hope she is willing to tell all. |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
84. Maybe SHE gave * a .... No. I won't go there. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
4. Wowie Zowie! This ought to stir the pot a little! |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. . |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Butter? |
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terip64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. To the greatest page with ye! n/t |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
7. Now, let's hope that she plays it "above board" and doesn't |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. I'm sure she could still be charged with perjury if she tries that. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
40. Ubetcha. Depending on the immunity agreement (use or transactional) she could void it if she lies. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #40 |
95. How is this different than Oliver North's immunity? |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. They made the mistake of giving it to North and tainting HIS prosecution. |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
54. Hey, don't you know that she is a 'Christian'? They don't lie. ....n/t |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. It's OK to lie if you're lying to an unbeliever, or someone whose faith isn't as pure as your own |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. LOL! ....n/t |
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bananarepublican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
108. Strausians are covered by such a loophole also! n/t |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
8. So does this eliminate her right to take the Fifth? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Yes Karl, the 5th now doesn't apply since she's granted immunity. n/t |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
10. Someone pop the popcorn!!! |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
11. This is very good news n/t |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
12. So if she's got immunity, what happens next? |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Stock up on a truckload of popcorn! |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
81. She lies to the senate under oath? |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #81 |
105. Immunity is like a gift |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
13. Sweeeet!! |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
16. Sweeeett!!!! |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
17. This woman needs to be put under 24 hour protection so she doesn't |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
33. My thought also. |
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jannyk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
77. Funny, that was my first thought she's a 'marked woman'. nt |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
86. Prayers are with her for courage & protection. |
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bouwob1 (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
18. Are we taking bets |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Yes, but hasn't she already pleaded the 5th several times before this? I don't think she |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
60. Very good point! ....n/t |
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colorado_ufo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
88. Checkmate. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
19. I was hoping for this |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. No. |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. She is granted immunity from perjury though |
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meldroc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
36. No she isn't. |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
66. I know I missed the not in my post |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. No she isn't. |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. and if she is found to have perjured herself, her immunity is revoked. |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
67. I know that I missed placing the not in my post |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
20. rove is gonna send out Blackwater |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
22. Can she get up there and say, "I don't recall" 70 times? |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
107. She could. But they could end her immunity then. |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
23. Monica. Oh, the irony of it all. Now, if she just wears a blue dress when she testifies... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 04:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
91. Yes, I've been reveling in this bit of irony too |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
24. Is their justice after all? And without revenge? nt |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
26. YES! YES! YES! Here we go! |
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firefox_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
29. I'm confused... |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. My understanding is that her grant of immunity nullifies her preemptive "taking the fifth" |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Doesn't she have to officially waive her 5th Am. rights first, though? |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. If she has immunity there is no way that anything she says can be considered self incrimination |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. So the details of the immunity agreement are important. Wonder if we can read them |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Exactly. We'll need to know the particulars of the agreement, |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. But if they withdraw the immunity, can't she be implicated by someone else? |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Up tree, we were discussing the need to know the particulars of the plea deal. |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
79. I would assume this is not a Pig in a Poke |
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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
30. I just peed my patriotic pants at this news! |
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IronScorpio5 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
31. Like she will tell the truth anyway? |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. I'm w/you. She's too much of a young, indoctrinated bot to fully understand what's what. -eom |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Or, with her new immunity, she'll take the blame for EVERYTHING. |
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jimquilty (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
32. i seem to recall |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
35. Sing, birdie! - n/t |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
48. Excellent...time to apply the thumbscrews! |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
49. Answers to important questions... |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
50. My First Reaction: She Better Get Protection (nt) |
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colorado_ufo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
89. Yep. She needs protection even more than the other Monica. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
51. Here's a little more information |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. The AP reports 'a barrage of subpoenoes' when compared to over 1000 issued by Repub Majority |
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IronScorpio5 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
52. "I can't recall..... I can't recall......I can't recall.......I can't recall" |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
55. A dollar says she'll fall on her sword |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Not many of these Repubs are willing to wear the scapegoat coat and go to prison... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Immunity |
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IronScorpio5 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. "Not many of these Repubs are willing to wear the scapegoat coat and go to prison" ?? |
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PRETZEL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. but after what happened to Scooter |
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IronScorpio5 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. I hope youre right. |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
106. Lewis SCOOTER Libby is ONE.... not MANY. How many more have |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. She would be expected to "recall" matters underlying her pleading the 5th (before being questioned). |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
64. oh boy this should be interesting I hope they make her squeal |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
65. A WZM subpoena to the WH is on it's way. This is the key to the Lam firing |
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vickitulsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #65 |
104. I've been reading this book online ... |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
68. Remember. This is Not Court. Many of "The Rules" May Not Apply. |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. This is going to take a while regardless.... |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Thanks for the lowdown........good read ..n/t |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. It sounds like DOJ has the discretion to influence an investigation of DOJ. |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. This is very peculiar to me too. I wish that I knew more about |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:00 AM Response to Reply #69 |
92. Those are more of "the rules" which may not matter at all |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
70. k(pete)nr! ....n/t |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
73. Couldn't they at least make here take the Fifth before giving her immunity? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
74. She can only lose now if she lies |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
76. To see the effect Congressional immunity has on criminal prosecution see Iran/Contra .... |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Yeah, but didn't that all work out OK for Ollie in the end? |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Ahh yes...Ollie and Papa Bush |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. So the question: is Monica Goodling to be the new Ollie North? |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #87 |
101. Well immunity or no immunity she can be charged with perjury if she testifies falsely. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. I do understand how the law is supposed to work, |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. She is not comparable to Ollie North beyond the grant of immunity imo. |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #80 |
102. exactly. |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
82. UPDATE II Chris Cannon R-UT says committee's investigation interfering... |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #82 |
98. How quaint - members of the "do nothing" Congress complaining about not enough work |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
85. !! |
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MN ChimpH8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
90. If I were her attorney I would give her simple advice |
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IronScorpio5 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:05 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Pul-eeze..... |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:39 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. MN ChimpH8r is exactly right .... |
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vickitulsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #94 |
110. I agree with (and like!) your scenario. |
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Jemmons (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
96. Eager smirk all over - hand me some popcorn please! |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
97. Pass the Popcorn |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
99. This is really big and on the heels of the appointment of the special proscecutor |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #99 |
109. Say WHAT??? What special prosecutor? |
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