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thesquanderer (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:15 AM Original message |
Obama campaigned AGAINST two major provisions in this health care bill |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. Big K&R |
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thesquanderer (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. It might have been worth it, if we'd gotten something in return. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. That's key, isn't it? |
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salib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. I think Obama knows quite well that any budget item he wants is to be placed on the chopping block |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. KICK |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
3. the facts just continue to get in the way |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
4. kick for facts. n/t |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. Big fuckin recommend |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
6. I remember words like "affordable health care for all." |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
7. thank you for posting this. |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
8. Obama's challengers are going to have a field day with this |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Obama has.. |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
9. K & R. Thanks for posting this! |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
10. knr nt |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
11. It's one thing to not follow through on campaign promises. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
42. These old comments were not lies, his current statements are. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
71. Right, that's what I was trying to say too, but it was ambiguous. I agree with you. nt |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
13. k/r |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:31 AM Response to Original message |
14. He also said an insurance madate was like mandating homeless people buy houses, if they had the $, |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:33 AM Response to Original message |
15. The bill will NOT allow insurance companies to sell across state lines unless the states pass a bill |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. And to allow them to do so is an idea promoted by Repulicans |
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thesquanderer (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Good info, but doesn't really solve the problem |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
16. What do you mean? He should have come out against those provisions. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. It is not a binary choice. |
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thesquanderer (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Of course it's not all Obama's fault, but |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
60. You don't know how? |
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jonestonesusa (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. As is customary with the HCR defenders |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:58 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. I'm a HCR defender? |
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jonestonesusa (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I'm too awed by your intelligence and wit to respond in detail. |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. I was 8 when Kennedy was assassinated. My expectations for Obama |
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DMNinFL (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
17. Since you asked...... |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
21. He was wrong about the mandate then, and he is right now. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. But during the campaign he said not only that his opposition |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. He said lots of things to beat Clinton. That's beside the point. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. But the VOTERS pay the price for Obama's "dishonesty" . . . not Obama ... |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Don't worry, he agreed to take responsibility for it. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. How could Obama possibly be "accountable" . . . ???? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
64. Exactly. That's why we are trying to hold him accountable. Being dishonest isnt acceptable, just bec |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. The provision (the state lines) is in both bills |
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billymayshere (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
24. K&R |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Deleted message |
Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
25. He has been a disappointment. |
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DMNinFL (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. The real danger will be............... |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
27. Bait and switch ...a con. Good luck on a second term for this president. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
30. k&r for the truth, however depressing. n/t |
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realFedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
32. I agree with Dean |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
33. I have to say for as inspiring as he was during the campaign, the total lack of leadership he shows |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
56. AND, what about the Democratic Party itself . . . single payer a taboo subject...!!! |
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wackywaggin (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
34. Mandate all Senators and Congress people into health plan!! |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
35. K&R |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
38. K&R |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
39. They do this and then get mad |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
40. great research |
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Techn0Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
41. Where's Lat Year's Obama indeed .... |
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Sunnyshine (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
43. Where in the world is Candidate Barack Obama? |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
44. CHIRP, CHIRP, CHIRP..... |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
45. Honored and proud to be Rec #102! |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
46. You believed that??? Yeah, I did and it hurts like hell, now. nt |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. We WANTED to believe |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. kicking up |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
49. What we do know is Obama doesn't believe in what 70%+ of the public believes in . . . |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
50. That is why "pragmatism" is actually not a good thing in politics... |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
51. The only campaign promise he's kept is to destroy Afghanistan |
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AusDem (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. that's a tad unfair i think |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
53. We need some interim measures to help us -- how about PLEDGES???? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
55. Just a comment on a "mandate to buy" . . . what we need is a government mandate to COVER . . . |
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debunkthelies (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
57. POD PERSON ??? |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
58. "hasn't even raised a note of concern" - I think we heard more about |
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Wardoc (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
61. Best part was your last line. |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
63. K&R! n/t |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
67. Obama is making excuses for the crime economy? Like we cannot deal with our own police and justice? |
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