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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:59 PM
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81-Year-Old Man Tased 3 Times During Arrest and 2 officers fired after Tasering parade driver, 76
Sep 22, 2009 6:44 am US/Pacific
81-Year-Old Man Tased 3 Times During Arrest

STOCKTON (CBS13) ― An 81-year-old man tased during his arrest by a Stockton CHP officer says he may take legal action.

Victor Schiaffini says he is considering filing an excessive use of force complaint.

Schiaffini walks with a cane, has no use of his left arm after suffering six strokes, and takes several prescription medications daily.

The CHP says he attacked an officer with a deadly weapon, his cane.

Schiaffini was pushed to the ground and tased during his arrest.

"That was the worst whoopin' I've ever taken in my life," Schiafiini told CBS13.

more...
http://cbs13.com/local/stockton.tased.elderly.2.1199804.html






2 officers fired after Tasering parade driver, 76
By MATT JOYCE, Associated Press Writer

Tuesday, September 22, 2009

(09-22) 10:38 PDT Cheyenne, Wyo. (AP) --

Two police officers who chased and Tasered a 76-year-old man driving a tractor in a Wyoming town parade have been fired.

Bud Grose, who was shocked five times by Officer Michael Kavenius, welcomed the decision announced Tuesday by the Glenrock Police Department.

"Hopefully this will kind of help bring the community together and be an answer to a lot of questions and problems," he said.

Kavenius shot Grose with a Taser on Aug. 1 near the end of Glenrock's annual Deer Creek Days parade. Sgt. Paul Brown was also relieved of duty.

Police say Grose, who was driving an antique tractor in the parade, disobeyed Kavenius' traffic command. That led to a short pursuit and the Taser use, which outraged some in the town of 2,400.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/09/22/national/a085349D80.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0RrJfTF3h





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Calif. Police Used Taser on Man in Wheelchair

Posted: Monday, September 21, 2009
Updated: September 21st, 2009 01:03 PM GMT-05:00

BY VICTOR A. PATTON
Merced Sun-Star, Calif.

The Merced Police Department's Internal Affairs Division is investigating a complaint alleging that an officer twice used a Taser against an unarmed, wheelchair-bound man with no legs.

The incident occurred Sept. 11.

The man who was Tasered, 40-year-old Gregory Williams, a double-leg amputee, spent six days in jail on suspicion of domestic violence and resisting arrest, although the Merced County District Attorney's Office hasn't filed charges in the case.

Williams, who was released from jail Friday, said he was violently manhandled and Tasered by police, even though he claims he was never physically aggressive toward the officers or resisted arrest.

Even worse for him, Williams says he was publicly humiliated after his pants fell down during the incident. The officers allegedly left him outdoors in broad daylight, handcuffed on the pavement, nude below the waist. Williams said the arrest also left him with an injured shoulder, limiting his mobility in his wheelchair.

And although the two lead arresting officers are white, and Williams is black, it remains unknown whether race was a factor in the incident. Those two officers remain on duty.

more...
http://www.officer.com/web/online/Special-Coverage--Stun-Guns/Calif-Police-Used-Taser-on-Man-in-Wheelchair/11$48497




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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:03 PM
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1. Facepalm...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:04 PM
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2. Ah. The terrorists got an old man. Lovely.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:04 PM
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3. Cop defenders in 3....2....1....
But you don't understand, the cops rightly feared for their life, what with deadly weapons (a cane) and potentially lethal vehicles (an antique tractor and a wheelchair) involved!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:10 PM
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4. Not this time
Cops are using these damned things like they're tranquilizers and to avoid the heavy lifting that's part of their job.

I've been threatened by little old men swinging canes. I just took a step back and then took the canes away until they calmed down.

The discharge of a taser should be treated exactly like the discharge of any other weapon, with an automatic IA investigation to make sure it was warranted.

If not, those cops need to be off duty until they complete a course in how to manage an arrest without risking lives any more than is necessary.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:07 PM
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9. "I just took a step back and then took the canes away until they calmed down."...
Or wait for them to fall asleep - 10 minutes, max.

:P
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Zix Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:56 PM
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7. Followed in even less time by the "EWWWW you're a COP HATER" fucktards.

Who are even fucking worse.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:25 PM
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11. I do defend most cops. You bet. I don't defend the bad ones.
Not all cops are bad. In fact, most aren't. I think it is disgusting anytime someone brushes all people with the same broad brush.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:01 PM
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17. Been a while since I saw a decent one. They are getting rarer than hen's teeth. At least here.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:05 PM
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18. You're right.
99% of the cops give the rest a bad name.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:10 PM
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5. "i am a big man, yes i am, and i got a big gun..."
fucking cops and their tasers.

it never ends.

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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:24 PM
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6. Thugs & bullies hiding behind their uniforms. I'm glad a couple of them
were fired. Kudos to their police chief.
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:20 AM
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20. I'd be happier if they'd been arrested and charged. nt.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:04 PM
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8. I'd like to punch dont taze me bro, for making it a joke!
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 04:00 PM
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14. Here is one that may be justified... Self-proclaimed Karate expert picks fight with deputies
Self-proclaimed Karate expert picks fight with deputies

Halle Stockton


Published: Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 1:35 p.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 1:35 p.m.

MANATEE COUNTY - A Bradenton man found sleeping in another person’s motor home early Thursday told challenged deputies to a fight when he was asked to leave and told them his hands are “registered deadly weapons.”

Two deputies ordered Kirby Barrack, 32, to leave a trailer in the 5700 block of Eighth Street Court East around 12:25 a.m. Thursday, the Manatee Sheriff’s Office said.

A report states an intoxicated, belligerent Barrack began to leave but then threatened to fight the deputies, claiming he is a “third-degree black belt” and that his hands are “registered deadly weapons.”

Barrack charged one deputy and then resisted being handcuffed and was tasered, the report said.


http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20090917/breaking/909179973





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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:17 PM
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10. I grew up in this Stockton.
The piece of shit town that it is. Noting the cops do here surprises me. I would love some more detail in the first story, but still, can't imagine a reason to tase someone old and sick.

Unless it's for fun, most the time cops tase it's for sport or because they have no guts. All the training cops go through now is about how to keep the officer safe.
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felon Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:28 PM
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12. you know thats a good point
even if either of these guys were breaking the law. The cops should use some common sense. I can see no reason to tase either of them.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 04:01 PM
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15. I haven't found any more info yet...
Will post it here if I do.

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:00 PM
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16. Thanks Kadie, I'm in Stockton, just down the street from that DMV.
I'm going to do some checking too.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:43 PM
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13. Damn uppity stroke impaired octogenarians fronting with the Popo again.
Why can't everyone just obey the officer or read his mind if he's not entirely clear?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:05 AM
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19. Very good-
"Damn uppity stroke impaired octogenarians fronting with the Popo again." Read it twice, and it still makes me laugh.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:46 AM
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21. You'd think police might exercise a little discretion when dealing with an 80 year old, eh?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 10:55 AM
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22. Not as long as they view tasing as a sport.
And they do.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:52 AM
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23. That's it in a nutshell.
With the associated "laugh about it in the locker room" culture, no doubt.
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