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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 07:59 AM Original message |
Why wasn't Rove indicted for Obstruction and Perjury? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. Nominated. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. Interesting. It would seem that Fitzpatrick would have a little 'splainin' |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. CREW is asking Fitzpatrick to reopen the case |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
3. secrecy in gov't is going to kill us. nt |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
58. I disagree... It will enslave us. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #58 |
80. i didn't mean it literally. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
4. Because Rove Went Back and Changed His Testimony At the 11th Hour, 59th minute |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Yes, he changed his testimony. But, what did he finally disclose that |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. There was the |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Yes, I want to know why Fitz didn't pursue others. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Here is a start: |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. More: |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Also see: |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
69. There is something fishy in Wash. D.C., and it is not the Potomac. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. Also Adam Levine was revisited in the week before Libby's indictment. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
7. Because Fitzgerald knew Bush would just pardon him and Libby if he did |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. As I recall... |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Libby is not in jail n/t |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Sorry. Was convicted, and is going to jail. n/t |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. He will go to jail if Bush doesn't pardon him first |
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3waygeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. * could issue blanket pardons |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Bush can't pardon himself |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. While it would certainly be unprecedented |
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bananarepublican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 05:32 AM Response to Reply #24 |
77. Could Bush pre-emptively pardon Cheney, then resign the Presidency... |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. This makes no sense in the context of your argument. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
62. Fitz exposed the Whitehouse shenanigans of the Iraq Lie |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. 1. No, the Iraq war lies were exposed independently of Fitzgerald's investigation. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. I'm sorry I thought the case was about Motive why Bush & friends |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 02:37 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. The IAEA had declared the Niger docs a fraud in March 2003. Months |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
13. Good question. R#5. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
15. several years ago I worked with a guy who was into the drug scene pretty heavily |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
17. see |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
20. We can be sure...Right? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
21. I think Fitz lined it up for Congress to do something. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
23. Because Rove slow roasted Scooter on a spit with an apple in his mouth |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
25. Important discussion ... |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
26. The Answer Was Supplied By Fitzgerald Himself |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
27. when I saw "leveymg" I got excited |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Yes. |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. thanks, H2O Man |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. The Bush administration? |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. we are being challenged by a radical fundamentalist movement |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
29. Are there more than two possible explanations? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I agree. |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Reviewing the story of the 250 pages of email |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Right. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. And if we think about that tension, it was tension between |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Yes. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Tenet was a hired hand where Cheney was a mentor. Tenet was toast |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Imagine the joy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Maybe if we hide all the batteries, he'll go away. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Think of how |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Yes, of course. If you can prevent someone from doing their job |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. There's never |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. I think it can |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. And the "shadow government" has as its goal |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Yes, but like a vampire, the light of day can destroy it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. That's probably us because political parties don't like to take risks. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Spinach is ok as long as you have the right dressing. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I know. "Red Alert" gets stressful and we've been in it for years. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
64. They assasinated David Kelly and outed Plame |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Yep. The infrastructure was put in place for decades esp. WWII-Cold War era. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. Do not ignore NSA, the Prez's own intelligence org. n/t |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Criminal thinking makes sense to criminals, you can take that to the bank. eom |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Yes and what I'm trying to understand are the unintended consequences |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
59. I wondered about "Pentagon sources close to Rove" when I first saw that report last year. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I agree. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Remember Miller was giving carte blanche in the military |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
40. Because he spilled what he had. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Except any evidence which may have provided by Rove seemed conspicuous by its absence |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
71. I think your idea of not wanting to widen a narrow case |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 03:47 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. A few things.... |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. More for the headache machine from Marcy |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
66. About those 250 pages of e-mails.. do we know if they came off the RNC servers? |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
60. Fitz does have explaining to do |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Ok, I'll play for a bit. What were the violations of the Hatch Act with which |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I'll get in on this, too. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-15-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Oh now getting testy Cheap shots Fitz is a employee of |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 04:28 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Do you ever check the factual accuracy of your statements? Is there anything |
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EST (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 05:42 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Perhaps you are confusing the Hatch act, actually there were |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 07:07 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. You recall Mr. Fitzgerald |
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