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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:10 AM Original message |
Teeth - The Worst of US Healthcare. |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
1. Agree. K&R |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. A Ronnie James Dio fan! Love it. |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
34. That is a beautiful song! One of my favorite too. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
81. Thank you! nt |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. My favorite DIO |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #91 |
134. That song is catchy. |
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americanmutt (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
98. the days.... |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #98 |
136. A classic! |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
75. One of my favorite songs too! nt |
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Sheltiemama (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
76. Is that a Belgian sheepdog? |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Yes, he's a Belgian sheepdog. |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. My friend/co-worker's wife will be done w/ American dental school |
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SoDesuKa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:08 AM Response to Reply #17 |
100. Dental School Dentures |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #100 |
125. I don't think that I was clear enough. |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
2. I agree. Along with vision care. A child who cannot see the chalk board or the |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Agreed. Throw eye care in there too. |
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americanmutt (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
99. DENTAL NIGHTMARES...... |
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AnotherDreamWeaver (917 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:28 AM Response to Reply #99 |
103. The Veterans Administration Dental Clinic will do extractions for me for free |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
102. Comprehensive single payer health insurance in this country would cover dental and eye care as |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
4. A doctor told me something about dental care & insurance yesterday. Anyone know if it's true? |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. It makes sense... |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
25. That cash and carry business only goes so far. |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
5. As a dentist |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Thank you for your perspective - |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. I should have made my post a reply to yours |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Too many people don't take gum disease seriously |
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Yellow Horse (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
30. As A Farmer |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Anecdotal BS... |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. You don't realize how nice it is having posters like yourself to knock down the BS |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. You're quite welcome |
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Yellow Horse (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
59. "Anecdotal" my ass. I know people who had animals die, and I don't want YOUR SHIT in MY WATER. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Ignorant bullshit |
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Yellow Horse (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I call bullshit on you. Eat a goddam ton of fluoride pills if you want to... |
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KathieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. So, toxicology tests & necropsies were done to confirm that fluoride killed these animals? Uh huh |
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Yellow Horse (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. 250 bucks per animal AND it has to be done within 12 hours of death. YOU wanna pay for it?? |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. That was the most ridiculous thing you've said |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. I would never argue against brushing your teeth with flouride toothpaste. |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. I hate to tell you but |
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Yellow Horse (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:42 AM Response to Reply #67 |
104. And if you had one ounce of respect for other people's concerns, you might be professional. |
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Loki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #104 |
111. Do you live in Texas? |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:07 AM Response to Reply #104 |
112. 150? Just about your post-count... |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:15 AM Response to Reply #104 |
113. Flouride effects in animals are the same as in humans. |
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KathieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. So...your answer is no? I guess we will just take your word for it then. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
87. Thank you for posting that, Yellow Horse |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:19 AM Response to Reply #87 |
101. purity of essence |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
6. I went to a public dental clinic as a child -- we were fortunate to have one available. |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. I just got two implants and they will cost $9000 |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
7. Agreed. Dentistry is out of reach. A few years back I had eight THOUSAND |
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madmax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
88. I cleaned my dentist's 2 offices every weekend for 2 years |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
9. I know this is odd to say BUT how about a sugar loaded addiction bill for soda like cigarettes? |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I don't like the idea of a punitive "bad food' taxes. |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. When I was a child - over 50 years ago - soda was like water & was plastered in advertising. |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. It's not just sugar... |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
14. My MIL suffered from gum disease for so long |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. It is bizarre. |
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Blue Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
15. I agree... |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
20. I have dental care but after spending thousand I started pulling my own teeth |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Your story is tragic - should never happen. And you HAVE insurance! |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
50. Once again, you'd be surprised. I can't eat apples of course, but most things are OK |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Damn. Didn't that hurt like hell? |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. No where near as bad as you might imagine |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
24. A great place to start a single payer plan - teeth cleanings for life. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
26. Exactly, and most insurance that does cover dental |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
28. Fillings should be free, too, as should all necessary care |
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lovelyrita (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
29. I have gum disease. This requires me to see the dentist every |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
31. Dental care costs have basically ruined my financial life |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Am in the same situation. We dropped our Delta Dental also because it was |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. I'm just astounded at that statement |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
117. Great post. |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
135. $70,000 was what I was told |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
32. totally agree |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
33. One wonders how much expensive treatment for heart disease could be avoided with timely dental care |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. The Lack of Preventive Measures in Insurance Industry is Appalling |
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Iwillnevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
96. Funny you should mention heart disease |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #96 |
126. Yep. And we treat it at great cost instead of preventing much of it with cheaper dental care. |
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Mr Generic Other (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
35. and having unhealthy teeth is associated with increased heart disease. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
36. Gum disease continually poisons the blood. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Endocarditis - |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
39. and I'm sitting here with a toothache that no dentist will ever see |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. same here |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. I'm sorry. May I ask you a question? |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #49 |
124. if it was that bad (heavy infection) I'd have to go and put it on my |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
73. I know the pain, I've never been to a dentist in my life. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
41. Dentists are crooks. Can't stand them. |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. agree |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. No question that there are quite a few... |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
48. I had to do early withdrawal from my IRA this year to pay for dental work I'd put off because |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
51. and the appearance of your teeth can affect your income |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
55. Agree that not enough attention has been paid to dental as adult dental isn't covered - |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
56. I had dentures shoved into my mouth when I was 12, in 1963 |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I know several people who feel better having dentures |
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subterranean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
57. This is why many Americans go to Mexico for their dental care. |
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Itchinjim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
60. When I was growing up..... |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
62. I agree. |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
66. Oral health is a medical need |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Absitively and posolutely... |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
70. Dentists should stop LYING ABOUT MERCURY.. |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Junk Scientists should stop lying about Hg... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. You're exactly right. Also, Mercury is in vaccines given to infants & the CDC says it's all good. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #80 |
94. You are incorrect: mercury is not present in vaccines given to infants. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
90. You're right--my father drove a Mercury when I was a kid |
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Sheltiemama (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
74. I have dental insurance through work, but ... |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
78. Dental should be on there YES |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
79. I can't believe the whining dentists I've seen here on DU. |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:44 AM Response to Reply #79 |
106. Please be specific... |
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crazy_vanilla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
83. both dental and medical should be socialized |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. I agree completely. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
85. I don't even want to THINK about how soon our house would be paid off, if not for dental "care" |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
86. Medicare does not even cover dental. I was shocked when my mom |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. That is because if any major work has to be done, it costs thousands. More profit. |
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boomerbust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. Right - No dental or vision care |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #95 |
128. Medicare does cover |
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boomerbust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. Just an FYI |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #130 |
133. I said post cataract on specs. |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
89. It was decided 100 years ago that the scientific medical community would not cover |
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Sgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #89 |
131. I've never seen a health plan that didn't cover opthamologists |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
93. Remember this? |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. That's what I referred to in my OP. |
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chknltl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
105. This Vet has bad teeth too |
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sammytko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #105 |
127. I guess i was "lucky" to be diagnosed with TMJ while in the military. |
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chknltl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. TMJ??? Ended up looking it up |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:27 AM Response to Original message |
107. I concur. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
108. My partner doesn't have ANY Dental coverage...!!! I have to pay for ALL of it OUT OF POCKET!!! |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
109. My wife the General Dentist/Orthodontist agrees |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
110. It doesn't help that many dentists are real bastards. |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #110 |
114. ...and many patients are pricks... |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Well it might help if more dentists gave a shit |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. We do give a shit,,,,,,,,,, |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:48 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Yes, I notice |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #118 |
121. No, just on lies and grotesque misinformation |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #110 |
122. My dentist is the one of the most decent people you will ever meet. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. I too am fortunate |
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cindyfaulkner (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
119. Mine does but |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. So let me ask you a question - |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
129. They don't really care about your health, just forced to cover you |
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