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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:07 AM Original message |
Prof. Gates' comments to Officer were protected by First Amendment |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. You are certainly anxious to find fault |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. We have to frame the issues |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yea, the officer violated the professor's rights to curse and swear. |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Gates said, "Yo mama" to Crowley. According to Crowley himself, |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Holy !!!! |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Remember what SCOTUS stated in the Hill case |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. So you want to deny the same rights to a police officer |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. The dropping of all charges is sufficient for me to decide |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yes. |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
5. It is a Constitutional Issue |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. "Acted stupidly" was actually a generous choice of words. It was really more criminal than stupid. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. You a lawyer? |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yes, I am a lawyer |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Hi! So am I. We disagree. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. The bad judgment was hassling a wealthy person, mainly |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. 'Wealthy' not so much, imo. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. He is a best selling author... |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Sounds nice |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Why not? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Why not nice? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. No need to get personal |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I don't know or care what message he was giving to the cop, |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Today's Vocabulary Word Is... |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Prof. Gates has access to Harvard Law faculty |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. uh huh. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. If the arrest wasn't bogus, why'd they release him? (nt) |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Prof Gates was "nul-processed" i.e. the charges drop before ct. appearance |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. I think 'they' released him once they confirmed that Prof. G. |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #12 |
27. He did not provide his name and badge number when first |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The arrest was 'illegal' why? |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. No crime had been committed and so the arrest was bogus |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Mass. Law requires Officers to carry ID and provide it on request |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
28. Here is a good analysis of the First Amendment issues by a Mass. attorney |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. The instructions seem to clear Prof. Gates of any actionable charges. |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
33. Someone e-mail Sullivans blog about the law here |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I wouldn't purport to inform them at this point. |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. The First Amendment applies here and so this is not just Mass issue |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
37. Good Youtube |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
39. Good article by UCLA Law Prof. on illegality of Prof. Gates arrest |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
40. Here is another good Mass. case on this issue |
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