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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 09:19 AM
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using darth's twisted logic, any nation that is attacked is free to torture it's enemies
he said that torturing has to be taken in context of 'the 9/11 attacks'

pretzel logic

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 09:22 AM
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1. this is the crux of the problem with "pre-emptive self defense"
upon which the claim to torture is based.

If one nation claims the right to so-called "pre-emptive" self-defense (whatever that means), then all nations suddenly feel entitled to make the same claim.

The result, of course, is world war, as we've seen time and time again.

But self-destruction has never really been a problem for humanity, apparently.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 09:25 AM
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2. "To the winner go the spoils . . . . . "
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 09:35 AM
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3. yet they fail to understand that attacks like 9/11 were also done in a larger context
They are fucking idiots. 9/11 and other terror attacks do not happen in a vacuum. I am not condoning terrorism in any sense - I find it completely abhorrent and wrong - but I also think it is foolish to not try to understand the real motives behind the attacks, and our financial and military imperialism are a huge part of that motivation. Torture and other hypocrisies just make it that much worse.
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Blue Meany Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 09:48 AM
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4. I think this should be taken into account when he is sentenced n/t
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