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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:02 AM Original message |
What happened to Bipartisanship and Liberal Openness? |
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Mari333
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Sat May-16-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. I prefer Democrats with spines. nt |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Define Spine. |
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Mari333
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Sat May-16-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. spine would be |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I sense your frustration. |
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Fumesucker
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Sat May-16-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. You catch even more flies with shit.. |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Where has Obama caved to the GOP? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sat May-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
5. We had 8 years of bi-partisanship. aka caving and keeping our powder dry. |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. How did it work out? Are you serious? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sat May-16-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Afghanistan. Covering up torture. Priniting money. Military tribunals. |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. You would find vigorous disagreement on many of those issues. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sat May-16-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Answers. |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. You call it a flip flop, I call it Political wisdom. |
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bertman
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Sat May-16-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
59. Tierra_y_Libertad, your definition of bi-partisanship is inaccurate. Bi-partisanship occurs |
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patrice
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Sat May-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
6. You NEED two DIFFERENT things to have bi- anything. And you NEED OPENNESS to have two different |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I am not certain about your point. n/t |
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Mari333
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Sat May-16-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I think a good analogy would be |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. That is also called a Strawman argument. |
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hfojvt
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Sat May-16-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
50. it would be more like a bad analogy |
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patrice
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Sat May-16-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I don't see fundamental differences between the parties as long as Campaign Finance is |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I hear you, but be pragmatic. |
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patrice
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Sat May-16-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
38. I am learning this every day in very concrete ways right now. |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. And I assure you, those same things fuel mine. |
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spanone
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Sat May-16-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
16. you can certainly catch more flies than you can republic votes. |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Well, self described Republicans have dropped in numbers. |
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Mari333
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Sat May-16-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. to keep the former republicans happy doesnt mean abandoning principles |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Only if Liberals start acting like Conservatives. |
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Mari333
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Sat May-16-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. so we abandon the Constitution and the Bill of Rights |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. You are putting words in my mouth |
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Individualist
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Sat May-16-09 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
21. Damn the DLC! |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. DLC? |
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Lasher
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Sat May-16-09 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
25. Obama tried that with the stimulus bill. |
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BeFree
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Sat May-16-09 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
28. Good Job, Cap |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Thanks Grandpa. |
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BeFree
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Sat May-16-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. No problem |
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centristgrandpa
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Sat May-16-09 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
29. to your question... |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. The game isn't over yet. |
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centristgrandpa
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Sat May-16-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. metaphors aside... |
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DJ13
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Sat May-16-09 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
31. Bipartisanship implies both sides get something in return |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. You are choosing to ignore the progress. |
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DJ13
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Sat May-16-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. What "progress"? |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Do you bother to look at the news or are you more content to whine? |
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DU GrovelBot
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Sat May-16-09 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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Overseas
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Sat May-16-09 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
37. Republicans have not been bipartisan for years now. |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Wow, excellent post. My thoughts exactly |
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Overseas
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Sat May-16-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Thank you. I am glad President Obama showed GOP bipartisanship to be the fraud that it is. |
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anonymous171
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Sat May-16-09 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
39. Big tent only works for temporary coalitions. nt |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Maybe, but who owns the tent now? |
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omega minimo
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Sat May-16-09 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
42. "the fear we have that all conservatives and all Corporatists are out to screw us" |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. My question is this. How many actual corporatists or Conservatives do you know? |
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Marr
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Sat May-16-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. They *are* out to screw you. |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. You are still jumping to an irrational conclusion. |
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omega minimo
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Sat May-16-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. the only people you have not countered with insults are the ones on campaign finance reforrm |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Not true. I consistently on this thread acknowledged peoples frustration. |
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omega minimo
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Sat May-16-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Yes |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Who is being beligerent? You are making the accusations. |
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omega minimo
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Sat May-16-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I read the thread before replying and posted your quotes which make your premise questionable |
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Marr
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Sat May-16-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. You're separating capitalism from corporatism, but then just re-stating |
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omega minimo
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Sat May-16-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Right, they are tools, treated as "persons," controlling elections with $$ = "free speech." Fix that |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. Firstly, Corporations are made up of people making decisions according to law. |
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CBR
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Sat May-16-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. My parents are conservatives.... you know what they do -- |
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omega minimo
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Sat May-16-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. the OP seems confused about whether he's talking about them in general or individuals |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I am not confused at all. It is a difficult conversation. |
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omega minimo
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Sat May-16-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Your terms are not clear as you make clear in your reply. You want the flexibility but have hung |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. I am not sure why you choose to be obtuse and create clever logisms. |
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Kaleva
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Sat May-16-09 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
48. people like to create monsters |
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DireStrike
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Sat May-16-09 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
63. The other side is not interested in working together |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. I offer no olive branch. |
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JackDragna
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Sat May-16-09 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
66. The other side isn't interested in returning the favor. |
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CaptJasHook
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Sat May-16-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. If we wish to keep them out of power, then we need to keep marginalizing them. |
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JackDragna
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Sat May-16-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. It's not so much about an individual politician.. |
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Sat May-16-09 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
71. Funny and I was thinking "what happened to the Democratic party?" |
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Bluebear
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Sat May-16-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. +1 |
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lib2DaBone
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Sat May-16-09 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
73. I had to pinch myself.. I thought I was reading Free Republic... |
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Mythsaje
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Sat May-16-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
74. Okay... I'll engage... |
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