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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:06 PM Original message |
When asking yourself whether or not Nancy Pelosi was complicit in torture, |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. True, but the rest of DU has both of us and the other one on IGNORE. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Well, somebody's reading this crap. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Maybe I'll PM you, if I post it they'll award me a granite pizza. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. Anybody can PM me about anything, |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Were they using the table for a waterboard? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Naw. More sophisticated. A dry powder board. Very effective in torturing the left. |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
50. That's the funniest thing that I've read here in a while. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
55. DUzy |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think this week, in my mind, it's got to be all about Cheney |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. And that alone is my only preoccupation at this time |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. What people might not realize |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. And more recently...Boner! |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Boner has the historical understanding and perspective |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. I became an early Pelosi-hater, when she took everything off the table |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
7. Long time admirer here. I believe her. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I don't see how it matters whether or not she's telling the truth about the details |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. This Is Nonesense, Ma'am |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I just assumed that she swore to defend the Constitution because |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Calling That a Non-Sequitor, Ma'am, Would Over-State Its Relevance |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Yes, Congress has authority over the executive branch. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. None Of Those, Ma'am, Amount To Authority To Prosecute Breaches Of Law |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Impeachment is a criminal proceeding carried out by politicians. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. No, Ma'am, It Is Not: It Is Quite Far From That |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. You are once again on the opposite side of correct. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Impeachment Is Not A Criminal Proceeding, Ma'am |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I know you believe what you're saying. You're just wrong. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. It Is A Civil Act, Ma'am |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. You're still not getting this. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Ma'am, Your Refusal To Acknowledge Fact Does Not Reflect On My Understanding In This Matter |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Impeachment is a process by which a person is accused of (and perhaps tried for) |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. To Be Unfit For Office, Ma'am, is A Condition Of Person, Not An Act Of Crime |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. If they're not crimes, why does the Constitution call them crimes? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. The Phrase, Ma'am, 'High Crimes And Misdemeanors' |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. That IS the statute. It's the Constitution you're quoting there. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. The Constitution Is Not a Statute, Ma'am |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. The Constitution is nothing but statutes. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. No Ma'am, It Is Not |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. .. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Thank You For Proving My Point, Ma'am |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. .. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. The Constitutional Convention, Ma'am, Had None Of Those Enumerated Powers |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Oh, I thought they were writing the Constitution and stuff. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. This Has Gone Past The Limits Of Cute, Ma'am, And Become Actively Boring |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. By the reading of what laws? Could you provide the links |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. You Came Away, Sir, With What You Wanted To Come Away With: Grounds To Denounce Democrats |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Well, I asked for some links. I'll do it again... |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Most people could find a link they knew to exist in 10 minutes if they wanted. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Even More People, Sir, Recognize The Stalest Ploy In Internet Forensics, And Disdain To Play |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Park the pretentious SIR bullshit. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. You are right, Sir, in calling this latest right wing attack on the Speaker |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Thank You, Ma'am |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Criminal liability is probably not a very good threshold standard for House speakership. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Speaker Pelosi, Ma'am, Is Quite Popular With Democratic Members of The House |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I was referring to you and your words. |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. First prosecute the people who ordered the torture, then go after the enablers |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Well, the bit players have prevented us from going after the people who ordered the torture. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Yes, she did that. And it's just fitting that now she may be more willing |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. I know. Karl Rove is kickin' some ass for us. |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. That's where I am with it. |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. 'Enablers' is such a weak accusation |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. Damn right! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
14. I hate her, but that's hardly proof of complicity. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. The flap takes focus away from the main job, that's for sure. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
17. I am much more interested in prosecuting Bushler&Co. at his time. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. This isn't political. It can't be allowed to be political. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. And it will be thoroughly politicized here -- because that slows down |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Here, as in DU, really doesn't matter. Here as in the DOJ is what matters. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I meant here in the United States. n/t |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
30. She is not complicit. She has been derelict in her duties. There is a difference. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. All be it semantic. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. A lesser offense. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
39. if pelosi knew it's still about the crime of torture....the policy makers are the criminals |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
53. Why would I ask myself a stupid fucking question like that? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. See The O.P.'s No. 46 Above, Sir, For 'True Position' On That.... |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. They come not to discourse but to seed doubt. They have nefarious and subversive intentions |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Think about it for a moment. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
79. Projection is as Projection was...I think of how them Pub Pricks have fucked this Nation and this |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
67. k&r'd |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
76. Constitution... you kid me right? That died in 2000 |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
80. You know what? You're frickin 100% right. Congress and DOJ have the responsibility of |
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