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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:19 AM Original message |
Col Wilkerson Drops A BOMBSHELL-Bushco Priority For Intell NOT Aimed At Protecting American People |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. This drip, drip, drip is turning into a gusher. |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. I don't understand. How exactly does this relate to Carrie Prejean? |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I love you... |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. (sorry...this was in response to OP) It was really about .... |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. I've said this for years.Most knew it,Never about protecting American lives |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. They tortured furiously to justify Bush's war and invasion..trying to connect 9/11 to Sadam |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Killing and torturing for political gain yet go unprosecuted. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Of course, when one realizes that Saddam Hussein was murdered over it.. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:44 AM Response to Reply #40 |
71. Uhh, you do realize how widespread this practice is, on the part of the US? |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
79. Obscure the truth by shifting the blame. |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
51. I read about some attempts to plant WMD's in Iraq.... |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
86. Then, there was the fun of having people tortured, don't forget... |
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Cobalt-60 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
56. oops, wrong button. But hang them all! |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #56 |
91. As an opponent of the death penalty... |
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ControlledDemolition (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
62. World peace! n/t |
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livefreest (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Not fast enough for my taste. but do we know if someone in congress is |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
57. BUT ... no one will be held responsible ... period. NO ONE! ... That's amerika for you. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. It just proves the Chaney assertain that torture works when you want to produce |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
3. Well, duh. Who didn't know that in November of 2000? |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. But -- Gore was stiff and you want to have a beer with Bush! |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Exactly. How come we knew and they "didn't"? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
45. September 2000 - I posted a prediction in an ISP newsgroup that we'd be in a war in the M.E. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. With PNAC publishing their agenda on the web it wasn't much of a leap. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:05 AM Response to Reply #50 |
75. Yes. The mind boggles over how many did/do dismiss the PNAC out of hand as coincidental/irrelevant |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #75 |
89. Tony Blair called PNAC an Internet conspiracy theory! |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. What I'll never get over is how the media never mentioned one word.... |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
4. I saw him on Rachel's show a few days ago. He's PI**ED! |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
5. Well, no wonder Darth Cheney is out on the talk circuit saying how... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Oh yes!!! Talking will make it work |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
6. So it was an "after the fact" mission? |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Cuz Saddam was a bad man who tried to get Daddy Bush.... |
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Mister Ed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
64. A bad man who was sitting on 10.8% of the world's known oil reserves... |
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Dangerously Amused (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Oh, come on now. |
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zoff (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. after-the-fact propaganda tour |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
44. 9/11 |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
8. Wow, color me surprised |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. the proof is coming out, but will action follow? |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Sad that your question even needs to asked. |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Asking and getting action are two different things |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
55. Dennis would have been a pit bull for protecting the rights of the American people |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:33 AM Response to Reply #55 |
72. Dennis was my choice. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Not if our current president can help it. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. absolutely what he said ..and those that listened knew that!! eom |
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TheMachineWins (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
11. Years later we, as a country, still haven't held them responsible, we just "debate" it |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:15 AM Response to Reply #11 |
69. Right On |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
17. Was this at the hearings and under oath? ... n/t |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
18. If only Cheney had been a nose picker instead of a cherry picker |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
19. but does the teevee news care they were punked? |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
20. That is definitely worthy of prosecutions. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
21. Torture is very effective at making people say what you want to hear |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. If your country's National Security depends on torture... |
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vixengrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. Well said. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
68. Bravo file83. |
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brindis_desala (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:37 AM Response to Reply #53 |
80. Before he died George Keenan, the intellectual "force" behind our |
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astroBspacedog (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
61. Facts are Irrelevant, -- |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. I don't recognize |
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Mermaid7 (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. Neither do I. The crimes here in America keep becoming more horrific... |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
66. Mass psychosis.. |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:18 AM Response to Reply #42 |
76. I wish I knew |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. I have been weeping when i see the flag for years , and you know those big giant flags at car |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 06:54 AM Response to Reply #46 |
74. good God |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #74 |
83. more pay for play wouldn't you say????????? eom |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Indeed I would |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
25. For what it's worth |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
26. Torture is one thing...but leading a country to war through lies of any sort is quite another |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
58. sickening the crap is really hitting the fan, and cheney that SOB |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
60. I think it is raised to a level of Treason |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:42 AM Response to Reply #60 |
73. Oh, it is beyond the threshold of treason. nt |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
27. Applauding Wilkerson. |
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santamargarita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
28. Project for the New American Century..."the New Pearl Harbor" |
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digidigido (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. exactly |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
32. K&R n/t |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
34. What good is the gusher if Obama refuses to acknowledge it and act on it? |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
59. Yep. Might as well just whistle and look the other way. NO ONE WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE!!!! |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
39. K&R |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
41. Finally. Someone says it: The torture wasn't extract information, but to create propaganda. (nt) |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. and so again why did the iraq war happen? |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
47. Bush and his "cronies" |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
48. The reasons we came up with and believe in through those long, dark, |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
52. It's deja vu all over again. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
63. November 22, 1963 |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:22 AM Response to Original message |
70. kick |
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pjt7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #70 |
78. Wilkerson is the man |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
77. Cheney, in particular, should be in prison. |
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JPZenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
81. Toture Generated False Alarms of Attacks |
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JPZenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:45 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Powell Speaks Through Wilkerson? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
84. which points back at Bush's Lies for Attacking Iraq |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
85. We can't let them get away with making Pelosi the center of attention right now. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. lotsa luck getting people not to watch the shiny shiny |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. It's an uphill battle, that's for sure. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. yeah, if you need more |
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