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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:42 PM Original message |
Go ahead. Pretend it`s okay to hide the torture photos. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. K & R |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Apology After Apology... Excuse After Excuse... What Administration |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. "Trust Us," Inc |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. scoot on over to GD:P, admire the latest picture thread, and shut up! ;-) |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Nah, it's more fun to stay here |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Yeah, things have gone |
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livefreest (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. let's not chastise those DUers who support Pres Obama on this. |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. I'm sorry... |
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livefreest (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. i agree, but those who have loved ones still in Iraq (and it's not one), are afraid for |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #61 |
71. as the mother of 2 soldiers |
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livefreest (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. well that's courageous of you |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 05:10 AM Response to Reply #51 |
91. *Sigh* Ok, I'll say it again. The public in Iraq and Afghanistan Already Know About Torture. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm fine with a delay. These will come out. |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. You might be fine with a "delay" but I`m not. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yeah black and white and all that, but think about this |
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Howardx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. you seem mighty anxious to get your hands on those pics |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Yes, these will come out. I can let this play out a bit, also. -eom |
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lob1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. Total agreement here. By NOT |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Darth, Rummy, and Gonzo |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. I agree with The President. Now is not the time. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Problem is, there will never be a good time. |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. From TIME |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Fine. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. or worse; it will be compounded. nt |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
15. K&R |
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Riverman (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
16. ENOUGH! |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
98. He is already not doing that. nt |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
17. You need to see pictures to know that people were abused? |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. But it can serve to get the public to demand holding the architects accountable |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. The pictures are part and parcel of specific, completed investigations. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Some people need to see pictures. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:22 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. The pictures are less remarkable than the Abu Ghraib pictures. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:33 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Seymour Hersh : The US government has videotapes of boys being sodomized |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:47 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. The pictures under discussion--the ones the ACLU is asking for--do not contain that imagery. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:13 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. You are trying to minimize the impact of not releasing the photos. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:41 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Please stop ascribing motives to me. You don't know me. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I didn't ever say a thing about your motives, Skippy. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Yes, you did. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:23 AM Response to Reply #48 |
64. Minimizing is not a motive. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. It is an action that accompanies a motive. Always. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 04:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. you believe everything "unnamed officials at the Pentagon" tell you? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 04:37 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. In this case, I do. Try reading the article at the link I provided. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:19 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. You may be completely wrong about this. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. That's an opinion. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:15 AM Response to Reply #47 |
63. What the... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. These investigations are completed. Every person depicted in those photos |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. And what of those who ordered it? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Look you need to read the full discussion. I'm not going to |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. I'm convinced that you don't what you are talking about. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 02:56 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Did you know that at least four hundred abusers responsible for prisoners have been punished? |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 03:11 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. In other words, no one has been punished for torturing folks to death. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 03:31 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Which is why I advocate using the SENATE REPORT as a blueprint, |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 03:50 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Were you against releasing the photos before Obama changed his mind about releasing them? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 04:02 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I didn't even think about it, to be frank. It didn't hit my radar until after he made the decision. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 04:12 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Apparently then you have no posts up against releasing the photos |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 04:19 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Look, if someone doesn't focus on an issue, they don't focus on an issue. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 04:24 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. If you were so opposed to the photos being released |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 04:38 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. I can't help you learn to comprehend what you read. I never said I was 'so opposed' |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 04:46 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Obama's "assessment" made a 180 |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 04:52 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. If you can't figure that out, you haven't been reading the thread, and your only purpose |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 05:01 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Calling names is what actually looks childish.. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 05:14 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. It sure does. Keep that in mind, Look, you and your alter-ego can have a nice day. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 05:22 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Alter - ego? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 05:32 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. You always show up with the same little buddy. Funny, that. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 05:45 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Always? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 05:57 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Always. Have a nice day, you two. NT |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Sure, but you are wrong on the facts. Completely wrong. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. You're making shit up and putting words in my mouth that I didn't say. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. These are direct quotes from your posts. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. I'm talking about your non-italicized, out of context comments, Tag Teamer. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I was just having a simple conversation here. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:24 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Have a nice day. nt |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-18-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. It's nightime here. |
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Badgerman (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
22. Obama is dead wrong or lying... |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
23. hopelessness we can believe in! |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
26. There going to be published anyway. Anybody remember "The Pentagon Papers"? |
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adamuu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
28. well... maybe for a little while... let it sink in |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
29. yellow dog/pants "dems": May 2: we weren't told; May 3: the CIA's trying to frame us; May 10: |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. hahaha yellow pants dems |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
34. K&R |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
35. Rec a 1000 Recs!!! |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
46. When you're lancing a boil, you don't drain half the pus |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
49. Thank you. |
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livefreest (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
50. i really want those pics to come out. |
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marauding liberal (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
52. K & R |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
53. Failure to make full disclosure is Guilt by Cover Up. |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
54. Not O.K.! |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R |
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Juan_de_la_Dem (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
56. Dead on |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
57. actually, we've already seen torture photos. electrocutions. whips. dogs.. death |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. And it wasn't enough because that program went on another 4 years. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
58. "Any member of Congress worth a plug nickel.." |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
60. Here's the point on the pencil |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
65. transparency? whatever. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Obama missed an opportunity to let the light of day... |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 04:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
83. well not exactly on one point |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
70. No, chose the right time to release them. AFTER peace. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
72. people who defend Obama's coverup |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 03:14 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. merci, mari |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #72 |
102. Indeed. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
75. k i c k |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
97. And this is in response to a lawsuit which was settled last month. |
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Luv nut (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
101. Well......... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
104. It's not okay, and no one can make it okay. nt |
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