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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:31 PM Original message |
I hold nothing against Obama holding back the pictures |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. If we don't know what's going on, we cannot stop it. |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Good point. n/t |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. We already know |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. They're not going to release photos of children being sodomized no matter what. |
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choie (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. WE already know...but "joe six pack" doesn't have a clue ... |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. There will be no prosecutions without public demand. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:36 PM Original message |
Bingo! Hence the need to focus on waterboarding alone, not murder and rape, etc |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. If shown in the courts, they become public record. |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Bull shit |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Uh, no. While there were secret trials, and Judges can seal certain rulings, |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. You took the extreme example |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. That must be why |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Another extreme |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I don't see anyone asking for a selective release of some of the photos. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. I do. Without proof, people will believe only what they want to |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. So you are telling me if Obama release images of children being sodomized |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. No, can't see anywhere I said that. But you probably knew that. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. "what the pictures consisted of" would DEFINITELY shift the current, preferred waterboarding focus |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Yes, we need to get off the false illusion and debate |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Bingo! |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. Exactly! |
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lob1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
13. The pubs are out there saying we need to torture more, not less. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Precisely. This move only supports the Right's view, which is exactly WHY it's happening |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
20. You make a good point, but how else to get the truth out there? |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. These photos are not going to make that happen |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
21. Works for me. Provided they really do get used in court... now... today. n/t |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. So Sy Hersch is a pedophile? |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Never underestimate the power of denial |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. I observe that many of the "Gimme pics" people here do not understand that the pictures are |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I was unaware the designers or orderers of our torture apparatus were brought to justice. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. These pictures that some are so eager to see are specifically from |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
28. the problem is, there won't be any court prosecution unless... |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
29. So if a prosecutor wanted to look at them to make a case she is a pedophile? |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. With our insane sex laws, that might be true. |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
33. Could they be released under strict rules and sealed from wider dissemination? |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
34. Has Obama ever said |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
35. Truth and transparency are the best disinfectant |
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