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sfpcjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 12:06 PM
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The lying about Healthcare has begun!
Edited on Wed May-06-09 12:09 PM by sfpcjock
My friend died in February at the age of 27 from lack of ability to buy a healthcare policy in America. They took his money and gave Michael a "catastrophic" policy which was simply a death sentence. See how his case is typical: MichaelWieser.blogspot.com



The TV misinformation campaign has begun. Here's the truth:



Don't let them make your healthcare "catastrophic" like my friend.
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HelenWheels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 12:49 PM
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1. Cancer patients won't get care
or so says my Repuke friend. She said she heard this on the news. When questioned she admitted she heard it on FOX. We had a long talk and I do believe I made some headway with her.
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sfpcjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 02:03 PM
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2. Probably from Fox Nus :-)
That's a lovely blanket statement, tho lol
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 02:05 PM
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3. 100,000 people die each year from lack of health care!
Edited on Wed May-06-09 02:06 PM by Fireweed247
Time to end the stupid ass war on terror and focus on taking care of people here at home. WE are our own worst enemy.




on edit: I'm really sorry about your friend :cry:
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sfpcjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 01:12 PM
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4. Thank you. RIP Michael
Edited on Thu May-07-09 01:18 PM by sfpcjock
Ed Schultz is covering the issue on the radio and later on the TV machine today, Thursday 5-7-09. (catch it on the web:

WeGotEd.com



We do not get bored of this issue because it is the lynchpin of the American economy, and we know it.

In the Max Bacchus senate hearing yesterday, they needed two (2) single-payer reps in their little meeting of 15. They had ZERO.

Bacchus is bought--the folks who bought him want this:

1) 15% gravy for the HMOs that they get for killing us NOW.
2) Government to go broke paying for said 15%
3) The program to be abandoned

How do I know this? Because, this is the Republican plan that Bacchus is signing onto.



My friend died last month at the age of 27 because he could not access care for his Wilson's disease.

MichaelWieser.blogspot.com RIP, Michael.





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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 01:14 PM
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5. The lying began a long time ago. nt
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sfpcjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 01:33 PM
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6. The Republican script for defeating health care reform
Edited on Thu May-07-09 02:21 PM by sfpcjock

The Republican script for defeating health care reform



(VIDEO) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30608309#30608309"> May 6: Playbook: MSNBC’s Ed Schultz and Politico’s Mike Allen discusss a 28 page talking points memo, "The Language of Healthcare," 2009 by Frank Luntz that was given to Congressional Republicans.

Frank Luntz's 10-point GOP program "The Language of Healthcare 2009":

(1) Humanize your approach. Abandon and exile ALL references to the "healthcare system." From now on, healthcare is about people. Before you speak, think of the three components of tone that matter most: Individualize. Personalize. Humanize.

(2) Acknowledge the "crisis" or suffer the consequences. If you say there is no healthcare crisis, you give your listener permission to ignore everything else you say. It is a credibility killer for most Americans. A better approach is to define the crisis in your terms. "If you're one of the millions who can't afford healthcare, it is a crisis." Better yet, "If some bureaucrat puts himself between you and your doctor, denying you exactly what you need, that's a crisis." And the best: "If you have to wait weeks for tests and months for treatment, that's a healthcare crisis."

(3) "Time" is the government healthcare killer. As Mick Jagger once sang, "Time is on Your Side." Nothing else turns people against the government takeover of healthcare than the realistic expectation that it will result in delayed and potentially even denied treatment, procedures and/or medications. "Waiting to buy a car or even a house won't kill you. But waiting for the healthcare you need - could. Delayed care is denied care."

(4) The arguments against the Democrats' healthcare plan must center around "politicians," "bureaucrats," and "Washington" ... not the free market, tax incentives, or competition. Stop talking economic theory and start personalizing the impact of a government takeover of healthcare. They don't want to hear that you're opposed to government healthcare because it's too expensive (any help from the government to lower costs will be embraced) or because it's anti-competitive (they don't know about or care about current limits to competition). But they are deathly afraid that a government takeover will lower their quality of care - so they are extremely receptive to the anti-Washington approach. It's not an economic issue. It's a bureaucratic issue.

Answer this by pointing out that our quality of care is overall about 50th in the world NOW, and that your physician's care for you is being controlled by a bean-counter at an HMO who is not a doctor.

(5) The healthcare denial horror stories from Canada & Co. do resonate, but you have to humanize them. You'll notice we recommend the phrase "government takeover" rather than "government run" or "government controlled" It's because too many politician say "we don't want a government run healthcare system like Canada or Great Britain" without explaining those consequences. There is a better approach. "In countries with government run healthcare, politicians make YOUR healthcare decisions. THEY decide if you'll get the procedure you need, or if you are disqualified because the treatment is too expensive or because you are too old. We can't have that in America."

(6) Healthcare quality = "getting the treatment you need, when you need it." That is how Americans define quality, and so should you. Once again, focus on the importance of timeliness, but then add to it the specter of "denial." Nothing will anger Americans more than the chance that they will be denied the healthcare they need for whatever reason. This is also important because it is an attribute of a government healthcare system that the Democrats CANNOT offer. So say it. "The plan put forward by the Democrats will deny people treatments they need and make them wait to get the treatments they are allowed to receive."

(7) "One-size-does-NOT-fit-all." The idea that a "committee of Washington bureaucrats" will establish the standard of care for all Americans and decide who gets what treatment based on how much it costs is anathema to Americans. Your approach? Call for the "protection of the personalized doctor-patient relationship." It allows you to fight to protect and improve something good rather than only fighting to prevent something bad.

(8) WASTE, FRAUD, and ABUSE are your best targets for how to bring down costs. Make no mistake: the high cost of healthcare is still public enemy number one on this issue - and why so many Americans (including Republicans and conservatives) think the Democrats can handle healthcare better than the GOP. You can't blame it on the lack of a private market; in case you missed it, capitalism isn't exactly in vogue these days. But you can and should blame it on the waste, fraud, and abuse that is rampant in anything and everything the government controls.

(9) Americans will expect the government to look out for those who truly can't afford healthcare. Here is the perfect sentence for addressing cost and the limited role for government that wins you allies rather than enemies: "A balanced, common sense approach that provides assistance to those who truly need it and keeps healthcare patient-centered rather than government-centered for everyone."

(10) It's not enough to just say what you're against. You have to tell them what you're for. It's okay (and even necessary) for your campaign to center around why this healthcare plan is bad for America. But if you offer no vision for what's better for America, you'll be relegated to insignificance at best and labeled obstructionist at worst. What Americans are looking for in healthcare that your "solution" will provide is, in a word, more: "more access to more treatments and more doctors...with less interference from insurance companies and Washington politicians and special interests."

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