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dubeskin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 10:44 PM Original message |
The more I read, the more I think American economists hate America |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. The world's poor stay poor... |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. The REAL economists are being held hostage in cheney's underground bunker. |
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dubeskin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Eh, most of the real economists are probably using their knowledge |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
66. Only If They're Big Heat At An Investment Bank |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. You are one of the most aware high school seniors I've seen recently... |
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dubeskin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. No problem. I was just hoping I wasn't too far off base...excuse the pun |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I just don't see whackjob at all. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 07:35 AM Response to Reply #11 |
61. Niether do I |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. Disaster economics, that Friedman knew it well. |
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dubeskin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I have not |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Depending on you to give them hell! You've got it! |
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dubeskin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. The author |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I once walked on a class in which the prof. indicated that China would not be |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 05:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
57. Please read it |
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angrycarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
8. They do hate America |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
9. ...a sight I found hanginig around. Tell me what you think. |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
13. BTW, K&R. |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
15. The wealthy elites have taken David Ricardo's free trade theory and bastardized it. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
69. Actually, that first element is perfectly in line with Ricardo's theory. |
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BrightVictor (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
16. I'm not sure I agree (and sorry about the length) |
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dubeskin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I think we can both agree |
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BrightVictor (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. So what are you advocating? |
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dubeskin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. A century ago was different times |
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BrightVictor (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. I was only using that as an example |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #21 |
62. 'have created 40 million jobs' |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. "from the office of the US Trade Representative". That's all I need to know. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Tee hee! Your on a highschooler's thread. They say bullshit? |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. What do they say? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. I know what mine says, and I know where he "learnt" it. Ummmmmm. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 05:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
58. Yup, they sure do |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. And you leave out the unregulated safety of imports ie lead, ecolli, salmonella |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. The current account deficit had been in the 700-800 billion a year range |
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BrightVictor (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. To answer your questions |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Your 48K is too high, your savings idea, well ask people who are making minimum |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. The 48K is BushCo numbers. |
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BrightVictor (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Really? |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Who do think was controlling the government in 2006? |
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BrightVictor (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Not everything is a conspiracy. |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Numerous organizations say the CPI is low. Been to the gas pumps, hospital, grocery store, |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
83. Yes really! |
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BrightVictor (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. My numbers are right |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. It's destroying this country |
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BrightVictor (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. What are you talking about? |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. You're full of republican Kool-Aid. Why are you here? |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 07:25 AM Response to Reply #39 |
60. They have access to ours to sell their plastic crap goods. |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #39 |
72. Milton Friedman has risen from the dead |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. LOL is he back today? |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Not-So-BrightVictor has not come back to the scene of the crime |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
63. This is a big fat lie-'the median income in the US (as of 2006) is $48,000. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #63 |
76. That's not how medians work. You're thinking mean/average. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
86. That is how an honest |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
80. I think your metaphor is quite fitting. |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
17. Here is a small flaw in your argument, like you wanted. |
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dubeskin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. We can't deny that some new things have entered the US |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. We can't decide what gets outsourced |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
85. The skills and personality that make one a good programmer.. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 05:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
59. I hate telling a 16 - 17 year old male this (because most of them assume it -wrongly) |
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BrightVictor (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #17 |
31. Agreed! |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
27. Any "economist" that praises offshoring |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
30. Another consideration: |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
44. you can polish a turd all you want, but the name of this Free Trade Turd is simply |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. BV is a repuke troll who wants us all making minimum wage working for "the man". |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. actually, I think BS like that which he serves up is a good thing, as long as |
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BrightVictor (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 02:14 AM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Here we go again |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #45 |
65. And he's still alive and well |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #45 |
73. Maybe here's the motivation? |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
46. I feel better knowing people like you are around to contradict... |
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Monk06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
47. From JKG |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. it's as much a science as astrology. btw, my undergrad degree is |
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Monk06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Industrial economics. Well that's micro so you at least do something useful for a living. |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. hah...never used it, and I studied mostly macro and accounting. |
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Monk06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. John Kenneth made a prediction in 'The Age of Uncertainty' |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
79. The "Economics Nobel Prize" isn't a real Nobel Prize. |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Do you laugh when these people promote access to foreign markets, when what they want |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I do, to keep from crying over what they've done to the very most helpless |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 02:26 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Sometimes I think, |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #49 |
67. Science As a Tool |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
64. Specialization Leads To Stagnation In the Long Run |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
68. In a way, you're both right. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
70. Ok, nothing useful to point out here.... |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
71. Economics is the smoke and mirror version of social science. |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
74. They have been destroying our economy for years and years |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
75. When you think about it, there is no such thing as "American economic interests" |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Yeah, what you said. n/t |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
78. A lot of economics seems to be psudoscience, IMO. |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
81. I think your argument is correct, but you need to refine it. |
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