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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 09:58 AM Original message |
The military as guardians of freedom meme. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. Eh, they're a bit more than *just* government employees, due to the risks they're subjected to.... |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
2. Let see how long you would have the freedoms granted to you by the constitution |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. But what will the peasants of Vietnam say? |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
46. our rights don't come from a piece of paper |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. Those rights can be taken away, though. We've seen it over and over again in history |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
50. Odd, but . . . |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
4. Meh....not worth getting worked up over |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
5. I always bristle whenever I hear that "freedom isn't free" meme |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
6. The military is like a tool. Used badly, it does harm. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. when i hear the 'military as guardians of freedom' meme |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I always think of this image when I hear the word 'military' bandied about. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
48. I agree, and yes, they're obedient to power, not the people |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
8. Well, you are on the internet. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Hey - DARPA sacrificed so that we could enjoy our freedom on the Internet. |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. Rights "guaranteed" by a document are quite precarious, are they not? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Rights "defended" by a leviathan corporate military-police state are already dead, are they not? |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. The US military doesn't set the policy which you're referencing |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. The grunt isn't the point |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Wow what a tall load of manure |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Wow. The "Mogue" eh? |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Hmmm |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I don't ever blame hammers. |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Feigned opacity is ugly |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. You've insulted me enough now. |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. I've "insulted" you, have I? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. This will be the end now... |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. More justification |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Let's focus on the argument you're making then. |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Now we're getting somewhere |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I know plenty of people who have gotten out of the military |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. While that might make for a great anecdote |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Hey... |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Thank you very much! |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
38. "The US was attacked... For the one time in all history, I would have joined the Army myself" |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Whatever, macho man. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Well you got it half right at least. I've NEVER been accused of being "macho". |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. So if you did noble things during your service... |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
41. Well said, JackRiddler. nt |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
45. It's quite obvious to me who won this little spat. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
20. The guardians of freedom are those in charge of the constitution. |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Depends |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. True. Depends alot on leaders of the country and the cause to fight |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Can you come up with an example since 1945? Thanks. |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Sure |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. As a Google slave, how can I resist? |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Uhhh, okay |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Afghanistan the "noble" war. |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I'm naive? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. except... |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
30. Pssst.... |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Psssst... |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:54 AM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Please... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. If you were intellectually honest, you would at least include in that... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Pssst... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
44. Now here is a veteran who serves his country |
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