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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:03 AM
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Mother and boyfriend turned girl into dominatrix at age 12
Former Blue Springs man and girl’s mom charged in child sex scheme
By JOE LAMBE
The Kansas City Star

A former Blue Springs man trained his roommate’s 12-year-old daughter to be a dominatrix and for years sold rough sex with her to others, federal prosecutors alleged Monday.

The mother, who allegedly helped get the girl to participate and shared in the profits, is the first parent charged federally for such crimes in the country, prosecutors in Kansas City said.

Authorities arrested Todd Barkau, 35, on Friday in New York on seven charges related to grooming the child for sex from 2000 to 2002 and selling her for it from 2002 to early 2005.

Her 44-year-old mother was arrested the same day in Texas for sex trafficking of a child and allowing a child to engage in sexual conduct for visual productions. The Star is not naming the mother in order to protect the victim.

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When she was about 14, he created a home Internet business and advertised her as “Mistress Alisha.” For three years, she performed sex acts — including things like bondage, beatings, burning and mutilation — with men at home or in online video sessions.

more . . .

http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/617102.html
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:08 AM
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1. Nothing like good wholesome upbringing
What in the hell is wrong with these people? Not only the things who "trained" her, but also the customers who went for sessions with a friggin' kid? Sick assholes.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:13 AM
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3. there is quite a market for our young girls and boys. but then we will start hearing
Edited on Tue May-13-08 09:15 AM by seabeyond
how old she looks and mature she is. we will hear after puberty free game.... ect. hence why the market grows.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:48 AM
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17. The sad truth is...
...those are exactly the precise rationalizations that pedophiles use to remain in denial about
their crimes against children.

Their thinking is so twisted and bizarre.

They rationalize that the minor "looks mature" or is "beyond her years." There's all kinds of
mental junk that goes on in their heads.

I've worked with a nationally renowned PTSD expert who treats victims of pedophiles. He's told
me that if you have a convicted pedophile, it usually takes about a year to crack through the
thick wall of denial that they've built--in order to make these crimes ok in their own minds.

If a "normal" person used a child sexually, the grief, guilt and shame would be suffocating.
We wouldn't be able to function. Pedophiles develop this vast maze of flawed thinking--which
enables them to function.

The PTSD expert I know--says that one year of group therapy usually brings them back to reality
and breaks that denial. It is only when they hear other grown men saying, "Well, she crawled up
on my lap, she started it," and other such nonsense--do they begin to see how deranged their
own thinking is.

It's really a sad, complex state these pedophiles are in. The scary part--is that these people
are average, everyday people--accountants, business owners, construction workers.

It's very tragic--and the wake of destruction that these people leave behind--is so profound.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:52 AM
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18. she enjoys it. a lie men just gotta believe. she enjoys giving 20 blow jobs a day
Edited on Tue May-13-08 09:52 AM by seabeyond
she enjoys sucking on some ugly ass, filthy, stinking, old mans dick.

i mean jeeeezus, the illusion these men just gotta live under to believe this shit.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:01 AM
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22. Thanks for this information...I was maried to one, and barely escaped with my daughter..
Edited on Tue May-13-08 10:19 AM by Journalgrrl
He had over 1000 files on my computer, girls beign raped videos, as young as 6...carefuly hidden and had been abusing me and locking himself in the bedroom for almost a year...

the babies were 2 and 5 months when I ran, thank god my 11 yr old son was never touched...no, he liked girls. That's why he wanted me to call him "daddy," too...I could tell you some sick shit he had me doing in the bedroom...why? that's another story

(EDIT to ADD: I left because I knew something was wrong, and the abuse was escalating...but didn't find the files & call the cops until a couple days AFTER I left...I would NEVER have condoned his abuse of my kids knowingly! )

I have had to handle therapy, actual medical examinors taking over an hour with a video camera and inserting it into my 2 yr old to determine if he had abused her...to no conclusion...and since its california, only a misdemeanor....

he was only slapped on the wrist with a year of mandatory therapy..which he was left to seek himself, 3 yrs probation, and no listing as a sexual predator or registering, etc..

thank God he was busted 2 years later on a drug charge, and he's in the clink for 6 years..but nobody will force HIM to sit down to therapy, will they? they will just release him back into the population ...more ready for that behavior than ever

so, wrong...
:scared: :puke:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:07 AM
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24. so wrong
:hug:
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:25 PM
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42. Being an actual pedophile means that you are attracted to PREPUBESCENT
kids, and most of the time there is no rationalization like 'She seemed so mature' (since maturity, both physical and emotional, don't turn them on). The other creeps who pick up 14 yr. old kids are power-junky rapists.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:05 PM
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43. i agree. n/t
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:47 AM
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34. sad and true
i get that argument a lot when the student-teacher sex story pops up in the news every couple of weeks
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:12 AM
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2. There are no words...
...to describe the evil and inhumanity of these sick animals who did this to this girl--and
the other victims the article mentions.

They both are eligible for life in prison and let's hope they get it--ten times over.

I don't know whether hell exists, but I hope that their time in prison is a complete,
unbearable hell every day.

At least this victim will get justice--and I hope she is surrounded by people who can
help her heal and move on with her life.

It's really hard to come to grips with the fact that some people on this planet
are so fucking disgusting and warped. They don't even deserve to share this planet
with the rest of us.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:17 AM
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4. That was a good one!
"I don't know whether hell exists, but I hope that their time in prison is a complete, unbearable hell every day." :rofl: :rofl:

I can see who "Mistress Alisha's" clients need to call now that she is no longer in business. Hee-hee-hee! :rofl: :rofl:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:24 AM
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7. Wow, how anyone...
Edited on Tue May-13-08 09:29 AM by TwoSparkles
...can sink low enough to roll on the floor laughing---when the topic is a young girl
who was serially molested, terrorized and had her childhood stolen--from a couple of
sick animals--is beyond the pale.

These people should have pain and suffering in prison. That's a given--to most normal people.

That's what prison is for.

What are you saying? When you said,"I can see who "Mistress Alisha's" clients need to call now
that she is no longer in business. Hee-hee-hee!"

Are you suggesting the sadistic, sick pedophiles need to call me--when they want to hurt someone?

You're one sick, depraved piece of shit.

Have fun with your hilarity---a very abnormal, pathological reaction to this article.

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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:40 AM
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14. Graduate of the Bush school of clues, are you?
You want to punish these people, the ones who enjoyed receiving "bondage, beatings, burning, and mutilations"? I think you have the shoe on the wrong ear -- these people are masochistic pedophiles, not sadistic ones. And you are advocating giving them EXACTLY what gets them off. I'll bet the pain and suffering in prison would be FAR better than they can improvise in the basement at home.

Here's a clue and I won't even charge you for it: These masochists, who indoctrinated "Alisha" in their unusual practices, need some serious psychological help. They need to learn to respect the "over 18" part of the phrase "consenting adults". Alisha probably needs some psychological counseling, lest she grow to think that this is ordinary behavior. But the next time a masochist says "I've been so bad, you should whip me", THINK before you reply "you make me sick, I'm going to beat the shit out of you!"
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:57 AM
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20. You need to learn how to read...
Edited on Tue May-13-08 09:58 AM by TwoSparkles
I said that these people should experience a living hell on earth--while they are in prison.

I made no mention of them being harmed, tortured or whatever else you are asserting.

The hell is being confined. The hell is being without freedom. The hell is living without
sunshine...or the ability to walk outside and look at a garden--or get in your car and get
a coffee from your favorite store.

The worst hell to a pedophile--is finally facing what you have done--and your denial
being smashed to hell--as society punishes you for your crimes. That's the worst
hell a pedophile could experience.

I never advocated violence against these animals. I said they should SUFFER! Please
quit reading into my posts. You're projecting.

Also, you mentioned, "Alisha probably needs some psychological counseling, lest she grow to think that this is ordinary behavior."

Alisha DEFINITELY (not probably), needs help and she'll most likely be in intense psychotherapy for PTSD, anxiety, depression
and a host of other mental issues. Undoubtedly, she will suffer for the rest of her life--because
of the actions of these criminals.

She doesn't need therapy to learn that this isn't ordinary behavior, as you said. She ran away. She
knew what a hell this was.

This girl is now an adult---and it will take years to unravel the damage these animals have inflicted.

I've met hundreds of sexual-abuse victims and their damage is so deep and so profound. Many have eating disorders,
mental illness. Some can't hold down jobs. Some require decades of psychotherapy.

Adults who perpetrate sexual acts on minors do horrendous damage to these innocent victims.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:31 AM
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30. No, prison is to protect us from dangerous people.
Not to inflict pain and suffering. Be careful slinging around words like "pathological" when you say stuff like this.
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tonkatoy57 Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:55 PM
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37. Whoa now, hold on just a second
"These people should have pain and suffering in prison. That's a given--to most normal people.

That's what prison is for."

My comments have nothing, I repeat, nothing to do with the original article, pedophilia, teacher-student sex, or anything of that nature.

Do you really believe that prison is for pain and suffering? I certainly don't and until the last 30 years or so, across the political spectrum, prison was seen as a means to rehabilitate and prepare offenders to reenter society.

Have we really moved so far to the right that ostensibly progressive people accept and encourage, "pain and suffering" as a legitimate use of the penal system?

Sorry, not me. Lock em' up and throw away the key has worked so well for us, hasn't it?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:21 PM
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41. I'm not talking about physical pain and suffering...
I'm talking about the suffering and pain that is inherent in the prison experience: Isolation,
lack of freedom, a great deal of time to think about what you did, being caged like an animal,
sharing a cell with another criminal, being afraid and sad, etc.

I'm not advocating physical pain or torture--nothing like that.

I am hoping that these sex-abusers really feel the brunt of what they've done, and they feel
society coming down on them, hard.

Pedophiles live in a very charmed fantasy world--where children want sex from them and they
have done nothing wrong. They enjoy a carefree parallel universe, while their victims
suffer deep trauma.

Prison pops the bubble of denial that surrounds and protects sex abusers, and would serve
as a constant reminder of their crimes and that they deserve to be banished from society.

That's the kind of pain and suffering I'm talking about.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:17 AM
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5. a good dominatrix doesn't have to engage in any actual physical sex, does she...?
i.e. genital-genital or mouth-genital contact.

:shrug:

btw- i'm not saying that it's acceptable- just wondering if it would be possible to legally be an underage dominatrix, as far as the way the laws are worded.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:19 AM
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6. Planning a New Business Model?
j/k
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:28 AM
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9. Oh please...
This was a young, 12-year old girl. She should have been playing in the park with her friends,
going to roller-skating parties and living a carefree life.

She was a slave. She was forced to do these things. Didn't you read the article?

This is sick and frankly, I'm finding some of the DUer's reactions to this--quite sickening.

How can you read an article about an innocent girl who was forced to meet with middle-aged men
and do these things---and then wonder if there's some legal loophole that allows it?

That's really disturbing.

I think most people read the article and have terrible grief and concern for the girl and
disgust for the sick perpetrators.

WEIRD.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:30 AM
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10. I love my ignore list
LOL
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:33 AM
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11. innocent girl who was forced to meet with middle-aged men... some male du'ers
and many other males in this world lack character. they think it is not only their god given right but constitutional right to fuck our children. male or female. too many arent particular.

they have an awful hate for females.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:40 AM
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13. I had no idea that some DUers were pro-molesting children...
Well, they need to stick around a while--perhaps we can teach them
a thing or two.

I actually think it's a good thing when a pedophile reveals what they are. It's
rare that a pedophile actually admits (even to themselves) that they molest children.

Usually, pedophiles are in such deep denial about what they do. They commit their
crimes in secret and their twisted logic that enables them to molest children---
swims around within the confines of their own heads.

When their bizarre rationalizations (I'm not harming the child; the child wants to have
sex; children should have sex) are revealed in the light of day--it's easy to obliterate
their flawed distortions.

Punching a hole in pedophile denial is a good thing.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:43 AM
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16. shocked the hell out of me. almost convinced me "all men" want this
Edited on Tue May-13-08 09:47 AM by seabeyond
i hear it thru out the male culture today. and they always end it by saying, .... and ladies (they always use ladies convincing us) now ladies, .... all men like this, just saying, shruggin and putting a stupid boy smile on. no longer boundaries. make boundaries so damn fuzzy so mass group of male will follow making it ok.

no,

they wont learn. they dont care. their perversion is being fed.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:39 AM
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12. After the FLDS threads and some other topics on DU that revolve around girls/women
and their rights or non-rights, legal or otherwise, coerced or "freely" chosen :puke: especially regarding sex - nothing, and I mean NOTHING surprises me anymore about the reactions of some DUers.... It's disgusting.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:06 AM
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23. And you wonder why all the verbal destruction of Hillary in GD-P
Underneath it all, misogyny seems to be the one parameter men (and some women) of all political stripes are comfortable with. The first "other" was female. All the other "othering" that is done is built on the first model.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:39 PM
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36. The FLDS threads were rather eye opening to me.
The FLDS threads were rather eye opening to me.

At first I thought it was merely inappropriate knee-jerk reactionism to the appropriate actions of TX CPS, but more and more I'm beginning to think we actually have a handful of alleged progressives who believe that a thirteen year old can and should be allowed to legally consent to sex with much older persons.

(Which further lead me to viscerally believe that some type of self-projection was in in play...)
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:32 AM
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31. did you read my post...?
i specifically said that i don't approve of this.

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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:09 PM
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38. Very weird
It looks like they're using a young girl's horrid tragedy as some sort of back door defense of--- I don't know what actually.

You said it, weird. And creepy
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:42 AM
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15. a minor in the presence of adult with lecivious intent
as well as exposed ...bits.
There didn't need to be any sexual contact, but the fact that there would be naked adults in a non-nudist sort of way in its self is illegal.
That her actions and theirs was in a sexually gratifying way is more than enough to call the illegal, BS, etc alarm.
They robbed this girl of her childhood.
We have so little time to be innocent, and look at the world with unfiltered eyes, it's a crime to take that away at such a young age!

And of course... you can be sure she was ...um... used, dom or not.

They're young (the adults) and they do... interesting things to pedos in prison, esp in the mid west.
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Sundoggy Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:56 AM
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19. Did you know
that people in other counties consider our indifference to prison rape to be one of the most shocking things about America?

Think hard about what you said. You want to take a person who committed an unspeakable crime and turn him over to people who will perform unspeakable crimes on him.

Justice is important, even in prison.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:08 AM
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26. American logic
You caught that, did you? You must be a foreigner, as most Americans believe that the social cure for someone who enjoys humiliating rape scenes is to put him in a place where humiliating rape scenes play out regularly.
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:15 AM
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27. *shrugs* for the most part I agree, it's horrible
but for these two...
if it isn't bad, prison serves no purpose as a deterrent.
The laws here in holland are horribly weak. EVERYTHING (it feels) is illegal, but the actual time spent in prison is very skewed!
There was a kid the other week who killed someone, knife to the neak, DEAD!
He's only going to serve ONE YEAR!
one, year
not exaggerating
ONE YEAR FOR MURDER~
So.. no I don't take a great deal of the complaints about the US prison system from foreigners seriously.
Yes we need to get a grip on our laws, esp the equality of the legal system.
but god dammit, I know a murderer is going to go away for a LONG time in the American system!

FYI, I am over the moon that the death penalty is its self dying. It's cruel, and HORRIBLY unequal. It's racist, and wrong.
That doesn't mean there aren't a few crimes, like high treason, that I think should have the death penalty attached to them, but the process for committing someone to death, the trial, the perfect evidence, must be long and painstaking. I would prefer a written confession... of course I had those thoughts before I knew my country condoned torture :(
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:25 AM
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28. As someone who sees the...
...devastating effects of child sex abuse--I still agree with you.

We should not advocate violence against these criminal pedophiles.

The worst punishment for a pedophile is facing what they have done. Intensive
psychotherapy that unravels the pedophile's denial--would actually be more
difficult to endure, than a rape. I'm not advocating psychotherapy
as some kind of torture, but I do think that pedophiles should be forced
to face the consequences of their actions, as part of their punishment.

The only way pedophiles can pay back society, for the innocent lives
they've damaged---is so unravel their own pathology, which decreases
the likelihood that they will re-offend.

Facing their own demons--and coming out of denial about the
damage they inflict on innocent children---is the very least they
owe our society.

Being physically assaulted or raped won't change them long term.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:35 AM
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33. good point- i'm not all that well-versed in the laws- that's why i asked.
i wasn't sure how they were worded, or how "sex act" is defined.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:34 AM
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32. At what level of behavior is a 12yo child considered a 'Good' dominatrix?
That is disgusting. Just disgusting.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 08:16 AM
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44. i'm guessing that in that fucked-up world, a 12-year old dominatrix...
would be considered a "great" dominatrix.

and as i specifically pointed out, i don't condone it...i was just wondering if there was a way that some sick fuck could circumvent the laws by having a minor(not necessarily a 12 year old) work as a dominatrix, and do so in a legal fashion, since from what i understand, in a dom/sub relationship, there are often no actual 'sexual acts' involved, as far as how sexual acts are defined under the law.

and yes, i agree that it's sick.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:25 AM
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8. fucking animals
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:59 AM
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21. :(
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:07 AM
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25. Pimping out your kids: Good old-fashioned conservative family values
What more can I say? :evilfrown:
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:30 AM
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29. I've got a feeling that for the next couple of days, "Mistress Alisha"
will be a very commonly used phrase on google.

People are gross.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:24 PM
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35. Yuck
You are probably right.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:15 PM
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39. Sadly, you are probably right. Disgusting indeed.
My God, my son is 11--it just creeps me out completely to think of this. :scared:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:20 PM
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40. Life in prison, people like that can't ever be in society again.

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