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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:20 PM Original message |
All you people screaming for handcounts, recounts... |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. and just what would your "realistic solutions" be? |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Then you know about audit trails... |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. tell me, who pissed in your cheerios this morning that you think it |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #33 |
49. Apparently, I didn't make myself clear... |
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Stevepol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #49 |
66. "An audit trail is not necessarily a paper trail..."??? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
68. I have done elections. Personally, recounts are good. One must |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. Much better to leave it to diebold. |
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Jane Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. We count the cash drawer every night and it has to match up with the |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. My Dad had stories from when first married and Mom worked in bank. She stayed late to make sure $s |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. All you people who can't grasp that without random hand counts, there's no transparency or integrity |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Random checks are good, and realistic. But... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Diebold can't steal your money without you noticing. Votes are different. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. That's a damned good question. |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's all about money |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. One question: |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. First, I don't have a favorite any more... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Opinions. Don't. Matter. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. so you are in favor of letting the GOP steal the election again? |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
9. let diebold do it |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. There IS a realistic solution. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. That I agree with. I spent two years... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. And the reason YOU are taking this so personally is....? |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Probably owns stock in Diebold or E.S. &S..... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. I have spent quite a few 16+ hour days... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. I'm pretty sure none of the recount advocates are attacking you as an individual |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:21 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. As I have my own issues, but my objection is not to... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
50. Just really, really getting annoyed at the... |
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Jane Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
12. Although I didn't go beyond trigonometry, |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. Well, first off, I don't recall anyone |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. I am not opposing anything but... |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
14. Yes, and it was my responsibility, and no one else's responsibility, |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
15. Hit & Run. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
44. My sincere apologies for having to... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. Hand count the fucking ballots. It's easy. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Woah! |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Hug brother! |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Even with hand counts errors will happen |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. but those errors are easy to find |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. We need random audits- whether ballots are counted by hand or optiscan |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
53. My point exactly--- you don't realize that after a 16 hour day... |
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Labors of Hercules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
17. It's not rocket science. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
18. Prepare to be called names and have your motives questioned. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
19. reading this thread i'd say most of the posters have had experience |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
20. well, tb, STILLLLLLL waiting for your "realistic solutions" --things must be slow over |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
22. I work in a grocery store and... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
54. When I managed a store years ago... |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Um well I worked in retail for many years |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
23. Our neighbors to the north manage to hand-count hand-marked ballots |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Those original hand counts can have errors also- I agree on paper ballots though |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
30. Wow. This is sure a silly post. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
31. YES! I have! |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. If I could recommend this post, I would. n/t |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #31 |
56. I agree that touchscreens, and similar... |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #56 |
67. I mentioned Punchscan, which uses optical-scan technology. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
37. I am an election inspector in NY |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
57. I'm in Suffolk-- do you use the lever machines? They... |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
43. you make me laugh. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
46. I've been a voting machine attendant and Asst. Supervisor of Elections. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:50 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. OK, but I'm not asking for resumes... |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
48. Why yes... yes I have |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Interesting. When I lived in Elizabeth,,, |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
52. Don't need to, it is our right to ask for a recount and the law. |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
55. I thought that all the counting... |
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ColesCountyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
60. The point is to get it right, not quickly. |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
61. Actually Yes To All Of The Above |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
62. OK heres a realistic solution |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
63. I've been a cashier. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
65. Why aren't you screaming for audits and recounts? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
69. How about reading some studies... |
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