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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:30 AM Original message |
Why did Kerry stab Edwards in the back? |
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southernleftylady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. It is a slap in the face isnt it? nt |
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Clarkansas (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. No it isn't. This is a two person race, and he obviously favors Obama. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
45. Especially since there were stories |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #45 |
61. and the ONLY reason kerry got my vote was because of Edwards |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
96. That's probably why he chose Edwards as his running mate... |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #18 |
62. how exactly have you decided this is a "two person race?" |
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Fierce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. Because it's all about the "fuck you" to Edwards. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. democrats often endorse. why is it a stab if he wants obama and edwards |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Maybe? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. maye it had to do with obama and clinton new hampshire and nothing to do with edwards |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. btw... he didnt do it before iowa swinging his weight from get go.... |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
51. You've hit the nail on the head. Why not endorse in NH, near his home state? |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. i am almost glad kerry didnt make it if he would have run the nation in such a |
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Libby2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
4. Pisses me right off. n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. Did Gore stab Lieberman in the back when he endorsed Dean in 2004? |
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LibraLiz1973 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yes |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. chosing a running mate isnt a lifetime marriage commitment. gosh... people need perspective |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
53. But we really LIKE telling people what to do with their marriages today so - it fits right in. n/t |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
39. How did that work out for Dean ? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
6. I'm not bashing kerry but he slapped me in the face back in nov. of '04 |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
86. And Edwards respected your vote how? How did he fight for it? Did he at least |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
7. hardly a stab in the back- |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
49. More like a 9 iron up the butt. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
97. We can always count on Karl for the poetic imagery. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
9. Yikes. I don't see it that way, at all. They were running mates, not BFF's. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
11. maybe this go like the gore endorsement of dean. |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
12. Hey, when John is done with you he's done. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. True. nt |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
15. Not the first slap. JK said he was shocked when EDWARDS told him |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
16. Heck... |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
19. because the fix is in? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I thought that the establishment wanted Hillary |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
77. me too! huh... |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
106. Does seem like the Fix is in with the media etc too...theres only one group who can stop it |
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disndat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
20. Obviously, Kerry |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:48 AM Original message |
Strong in SC? That's just a ridiculous claim. J E's polling there is |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
35. Then why would he pick SC to do this with Edwards polling so low? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Because Clinton is competitive there and |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
56. With me not from the US and all, but i've heard that |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I don't know if that's true or not. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Nah... |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
24. Not many people were *too* excited about Kerry when he ran |
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gort (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
25. Kerry stabbed us all in the back |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
83. Did Edwards challenge the theft? Championed the cause? Spoke up? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
26. Because he's an asshole, apparently. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. how so? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. He must not think he owes the country anything either...since Obama cannot be elected |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
72. oh, so you elevate your implication to |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. I'm sorry facts don't meet with your approval. You vomit at me for stating them? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. your opinion, not fact. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #81 |
102. Are you a Brit? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. no, but in the first line of your link |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
27. I don't think he did- He just chose someone else to support. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
29. I can't even think of a logical reason for him to do this in SC. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. You're right KoKo01 |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Sure it's logical. Edwards has no chance in SC |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. It's not logical.. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I think it's helpful among white voters |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. BS. This will help Edwards in SC. Kerry's an idiot. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #44 |
59. Nope. Kerry endorsing Obama in SC won't help Edwards |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
76. We'll wait and see. I live in NC and my guess is there's going to |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. You're right. Doing this in SC is sending a strong message |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
32. so let me get this straight... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
47. yeah, I don't understand |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
71. beats the hell out of me! |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
34. They ain't friends. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. But Bill Clinton campaigned for Kerry in 2004 also? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. and hillary took a couple of hardass jabs at kerry at very bad times |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Sorry, I don't recall those jabs?? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
73. for one she jumped on his ass after the botched joke, |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #34 |
54. Makes Kerry sound like a Republican--blame your loss on a VP candidate |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. kerry never went after edwards. was the other way around. how we ignore |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. Did you read the article above? Kerry and staff couldn't be quoted |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
42. Maybe it's as simple as him thinking Obama is the best person |
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regularguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
111. Stop that! |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Feels like these days, doesn't it? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
50. I think you're making more of this than it is. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
52. I think he wanted to stop Hillary |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. But, Hillary is not popular in SC at all. Obama has it sewn up... |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
57. I like Kerry, but he's wrong. |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. me either & the Clarkie's are rude & nasty if you disagree with them |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
60. Maybe Kerry doesn't want a President Edwards investigating.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #60 |
69. especially since kerry has had three different investigations going since 2004 |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
114. Immediately folding at the most important time, which was... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
63. Endorsing one does not mean dissing the others. |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Kerry a brass ring? he's a dem loser from the past. not such a good endorsement IMO |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. same could be said of Edwards. n/t |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. edwards wasn't the presidential candidate, kerry was! |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
67. I never knew that advertising one's approval... |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
75. Skull&Bones? |
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Blaze Diem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. My first thought also. We have become so very suspicious of our |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
78. The one thing that stands out to me about Kerry and Edwards |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #78 |
93. And what stopped Edwards all these years? Would have been a perfect campaign issue too |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. If he wanted to kill his chances to get in and change the system |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Who would have had his back? Kerry? The fooled majority of hypnotized citizens? |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #78 |
101. Ding Ding Ding!! We have a winner! |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
82. He didn't wait because he wanted to reward Edwards' back stabbing - now that he''s still visible |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
84. So much for JK's thinking JE could be HIS "heart-beat away". But hey--- |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #84 |
95. I am betting Obama as well, The Kennedys and the Clintons factions of the party |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
85. Ask again when Edwards endorses Obama. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
87. Not to mention how many votes Obama has to gain with this- pure vanity |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Gives Obama the nifty addressbook Edwards was suckling from so far...not so bad |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Money is not Obama's problem at the moment... |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Nope. It's Edwards'. Remember Trippi's rumors that Hillary was broke? |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. Exactly, Obama wants Edwards out... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
88. Because, like Kucinich, he thought Obama was the best candidate? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. That too. But payback to Edwards & the Clintons was the cherry on top. |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
90. maybe because he sees that Obama too could do a decent Lurch |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
103. Are ticket mates required to be best friends? |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
104. Cause there aint no state where Kerry is still admired. |
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951-Riverside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
107. Lets compare running for president to swimming in a deep lake.... |
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MzNov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
108. Edwards basically won the VP slot since Kerry won in 04. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
109. because edwards didn't want kerry to concede? because he wanted |
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DiamondJay (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
110. because Edwards is a joke |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. Well. no. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
113. I don't look at it that way, and I support John Edwards. |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
116. my bet is that he called Kerry ahead, to give him the heads-up |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
117. Maybe he honestly thinks Obama would be the better man for the job? |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
118. Kerry feels that Obama is best person for the job... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Politics ain't beanbag. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
120. Enough people on the inside knew Edwards wanted to fight the vote count in Ohio, and Kerry said No.. |
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