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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:13 PM
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So Hillary's irate moment didn't get the attention Obamistas wanted.
Could that mean the primary battle will be over the dreaded SUBSTANCE? Why don't Obamistas want that?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:14 PM
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1. Some context, please, for those of us who have lives outside of DU. n/t
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:18 PM
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4. Hillary pounded the table over the fact that she produced change not just talked about it
lasted about 10 seconds, was probably planned, Obamistas thought it was a Dean moment. It was so important that I watched the debate but didn't even notice it (even though I saw it) until some posters tried to turn it into "dean scream"
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:17 PM
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2. Obama has plenty of substance, it's sandwiched in between the
words "yea" & "nay"
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:18 PM
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3. I'm not sure everyone saw it as a "moment"
So she got a little shrill. :shrug: Is that not allowed? I think it would be in bad form for Obama and his supporters to try to make her retort a "moment."

That being said, I do feel that I need Obama to talk more substance.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:19 PM
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6. I watched it and didn't even NOTICE it til I read about it here
some big moment there.
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Native Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:23 PM
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12. Exactly!
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 03:23 PM by Native
Taking that logic a step forward, one can assert that if Hillary's tapping of the table was a Dean moment, Richardson's drumming of the table (which was exponentially greater than Hillary's) would classify him as certifiable. God save us all from this insane prejudice.
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Bishop Rook Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:23 PM
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14. I noticed it at the time
It was pretty understandable, since she'd just gotten conspicuously double-teamed by Obama and Edwards. It was probably the highest-tension moment of the debate, but it wasn't "Dean Scream" material. Then again, the "Dean Scream" wasn't "Dean Scream" material either, that was blown way out of proportion at the time...

All four candidates handled themselves pretty well, though Edwards was certainly the winner. By the end, everyone had composure. The only person there who truly made an ass out of himself was Charles Gibson.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:18 PM
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5. "Obamistas"? nice try, pretty funny. Peronistas, Perotistas, Potatistas
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:19 PM
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7. irate?
i didn't think she was irate.

I thought she was just being assertive.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:20 PM
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9. I didn't mean that as a criticism, just didn't think it was quite "anger" nt
.
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Bishop Rook Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:19 PM
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8. Who cares?
Obama didn't need to win that debate, he needed to not lose it, and he didn't. Clinton needed to win it, and she didn't. Edwards needed to win it, and he did. This will very shortly turn into an Obama/Edwards race, rather than an Obama/Clinton one.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:21 PM
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10. I don't think Obama wants an O/Edwards race because 90% of Clintons will go to Edwards nt
nt
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Bishop Rook Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:26 PM
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16. Got statistics?
I sincerely doubt that. I think it'd be more likely that 50% of the Clintonites would sit out the primaries if she dropped out, and the rest would be fairly well split among Obama, Edwards, and Richardson. That's just my guess, though.

In any case, as I mentioned in another thread, I think it's likely Obama and Edwards are already allied for an O/E or E/O ticket, in which case their most important task would be making sure Hillary doesn't get the nomination.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:22 PM
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11. "Obamistas?"
Cute. :eyes:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:23 PM
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13. Hillary Clinton better hope the primaries aren't decided on substance.
I don't think corporate executives are numerous enough to elect her on their own.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:25 PM
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15. What's an Obamista?
Will they start up death squads, soon?
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:27 PM
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17. yep, your post is full of substance.
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