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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:55 PM Original message |
Obama has no substance and he's inexperienced. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. True. I think Edwards is more forceful and capable. nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I think JE has a marginally better platform but |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. What Walk? - The Man Speaks In Platitudes, Not Specifics |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I don't think you read the OP |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. try reading my OP |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. When, in Edwards's senate "career" did he "walk the walk?" |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. How Many Times Has Obama Voted Present - What Walk? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. not very many. Not as many as Edwards did. |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I'm 50 Years Old - My Mind Has Been Tempered By Reality |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Deleted message |
lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Attacking DU Members By Calling Them Names Is Against The Rules |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. I'm with you, and I'm even older. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
73. Anger makes a contender STUPID. And retribution leads to the desire for revenge. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
71. Yes...what young folks forget is that we've heard THAT SPEECH OVER AND OVER! |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
72. Maybe you should read the OP and argue the specifics. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
60. You should study |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
76. Kick for DU "Newbies" .....be sure to watch the You Tube of Sibol... |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
62. Yeah- he sounds like Bill Clinton, doesn't he? |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well, NOW you've done it. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. hoard suddenly is a noun? |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Well that was one spell check didn't catch for me. Should read horde. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
66. I'm not a spelling nazi, really! It's spelled right but it's the wrong word. |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Most folks screw up to, too, and two. I screw up "the horde." |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks for posting this as an OP |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. You think those are our big issues? Oh, |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Yes, I do think these are *some* of our big issues |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
75. "he didn't vote for the war. 'Nuff said." |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. PS what do you think are our big issues? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. Except he voted to renew The Patriot Act and to continue funding the war! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. try actually reading his voting record instead of |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. They don't want to educate themselves Cali. Sad as it is. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. *Warning* *Danger* Cali's on her high horse again! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. is that the best you can do? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Here ya go CALI!! - He doesn't speak for "We the people" at all. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
19. If he gets the nomination, he gets my vote. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
24. Calli, there was a post on DU with chart of Dems Funding... |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Obama gets 25% and Edwards gets 28% of total money from donations of under $200 |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. i like the lobbyist breakdown myself, i find that one pretty telling... |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. and big pharma like Obama 18X as much as Edwards..... |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. and education likes Obama 6x as much as Edwards..... |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Let's look at the total numbers here |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. so although Obama has gotten more money- this will make him less beholden? |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I'm not saying it will make him less beholden |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. i just hate the dishonesty that goes with saying he takes less $$, cause dollarwise, it's a lie |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Um, I'm not the one trying to make that argument about money |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. oh. sorry, not you Xema... but the stats get parsed and i feel like the % game is dishonest |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Interesting assessment.... |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I am trying so hard not to have a personal bias about deciding who to support |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I have to say |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. and I don;t want to discredit the intangibles- if you are smart, then the gut - or intuition |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. . |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. in vino, veritas! |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. And it would be even better if it was the three of them at the same time |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. that's any interesting idea, and I guess they'd be buying! |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. No, we'd have hangovers |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. thanks! that sounds like a party.... I can't wait fo the big one.... |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I'd love to go! |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. i regret not going last time. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
69. Big Pharma, got the bulk of investments for Obama and Clinton...n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. I can't find the chart I saw but |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Edwards' contributions |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. this is a a shut out, a no brainer.. I can't believe an Obama supporter even attempted to go there. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. Edwards was lowest with the vilest groups...Kucinich even lower...n/t |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
25. his congressional 'funding' is bundled corporate money |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. and one third of JE's funding comes from ONE special interest group |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. sure he bundles, but there are significant differences which you either are ignoring |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. lookee who's at the top of Obama's career contributors under 'top industries supporting' |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. all that lawyers' support would reflect very poorly on Obama if Cali has any say in it... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
34. He has been the media darling and has not be subjected to down and dirty attacks. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
48. good post |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
49. Bush was in the hole, both in experience AND intelligence |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
63. Well thank you |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
64. Sorry, I disagree with you opinion |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
65. All the experience in the world didnt seem to keep Hillary from saying "yes" to Bush on Iraq. |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. To me, the bottom line is, |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
67. Obama it is! |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
68. Here is an very interesting article about obama in 1992 |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. WOW!! thanks for posting n/t |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
79. Obama worries me |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I think his lack of political experience has been blown out of proportion |
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