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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:13 AM Original message |
My concern is that the Democrat will continue our march toward fascism... |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. I totally share your concerns. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. Reckick. These are my fears, as well. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. Bill Clinton certainly did... so I share your concerns |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
4. Ya, lets deeply divide the party |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Sorry, I don't understand how your post is at all responsive to the initial post, |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Once again... |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. The rot of losing our basic rights, and the legacy of the Constitution or Bill of Rights |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
41. Division is necessary if part of our party is cancerous. We must cut out the |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:45 AM Response to Reply #41 |
52. If not "THE" machine that enabled the Democratic party's quick slide to corporatism... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
49. ...because burying your head in the sand accomplishes so much. |
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Cogito ergo doleo (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
6. The point you raise is almost too terrible to consider - but true. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Yep. You nailed it. |
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AmBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. I love the idea of a Citizens' Congress. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. Oh yeah! |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
7. I feel like Democrats are better than Republicans |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Yes but as long as you make the division as republican vs. Democrat we are in trouble. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:17 AM Response to Reply #42 |
55. And if we have an internal purge, we risk giving it to the REpublicans n/t |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #55 |
69. So we must give up our principles to win?? If we need to keep DINO's |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Put up solid primary candidates that can take out the Diane Fiensteins |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I agree completely. It would be an internal purge of incumbent DINO's and |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
63. But they only level things off, and never... |
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Blarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
8. Bernie Sanders for President. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
58. Bernie Sanders would disagree with the OP |
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comradebillyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
9. We are on our way to |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
10. More harmless, casual pot smokers without records were jailed under Clinton |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. That is my fear... |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. and this fact |
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AmBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
13. You're exactly right. |
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Summer93 (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
14. That's the key |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
17. it should only be a concern if our candidate is affiliated with the dlc |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
18. Some "Democrats" have abandoned their party to join the WAR PARTY of Neoconservatism. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
19. Separating the Democrats into their own camps is your way to stop the march to fascism? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. The "D" in front of their names... |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Your use of the word "camps" is misleading. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
60. I know - it worked great during the Spanish Civil War, didn't it? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
20. Many Democrats, including DUers are more concerned with the label... |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
21. My fear, as well. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
23. But, but, but ... they'll go SLOWER ... so it'll be easier for us to keep up! |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
25. And that's the main reason I have been a Kucinich supporter. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
26. Too, too true |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. that is the danger |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. The problem for some is that they forget that a party is a means to an end. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Excellent comments... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
30. My #1 concern too! |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
31. The corporate media actually encourages this idea. It's an excellent way to weaken the left. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Left? |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #31 |
48. Strange, |
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dave123williams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
34. I hear New Zealand's really nice.... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Actually, they're suffering a bout of fascism. |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
35. This is the reason I worry about candidates who take corporate money |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
36. You certainly are not alone in that... |
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horsewithnoname (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
37. well at least democrats won't lock us up in death camps |
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Yuugal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
38. They will. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
39. concern noted |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
43. K&R |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
44. Welcome aboard. That is the dilemma we at DU discuss all the time. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
46. We need to work on our fellow citizens |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
47. I share them but... here is the big caveat |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
51. my hope is that the Democrat will turn his/her back on the coporate donors that brought them. |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #51 |
64. And I hope it will rain lollipops |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. well...it could happen (not the lollipop thing)... |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
53. K&R |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:47 AM Response to Original message |
54. Excellent strategy.... |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
56. which democrats think we're headed toward fascism? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Which Democrats do not think? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I don't understand |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I know... |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. so your group of acceptable democrats might number zero? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. No. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
62. I asked Barack Obama this very question... |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. Great story. |
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brazos121200 (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
67. It seems the few Democrats who are truly anti-corporate |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:05 AM Original message |
Exactly where I'm at! n/t |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
68. agreed, 100 percent-- that's why I don't support blanket party votes anymore.... |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
72. That's why we should elect the most Progressive candidate - Edwards or Kucinich |
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