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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:59 AM Original message |
More Big Brother fun. GM's new Onstar could shut your car's engine off remotely. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Then why the hell cacn't we have plug-in electric. They obviously have the time to |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. How does that promote the sale of oil??????? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Because electric doesn't involve spying on you |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. made me laugh. (quite a difficult task today.) |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. I could see lots of "stalled" cars on their way to the polls. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Great points. Even though they've rigged our elections with technology as well. |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. Late on your car payments are ya? no driving for you dude till you bring |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. You know thats part of this deal. All about C.O.N.T.R.O.L. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. And why isn't EVERYONE screaming about this in the Land of the Free? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Actually many auto lenders already use such a devise! |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Do they really? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Yes, some "east credit" places use a devise that |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. damn never heard tell of that...smart dealers dumb purchasers, but I guess if you gotta |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Excactly! they pay 3000 for a car worth 1000 at 30%. Great deal. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Yes, it's called LoJack....been around for a long time. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
43. Check out: |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
50. If you're not making payments, it's not your car. |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #50 |
78. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the eventual court cases. |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
8. If it works as well as any of the GM cars I ever owned, I'm not too worried. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Oh then no worries Tanya. As long as you play by their rules and kiss their ass your fine. |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I'm saying that every GM car I ever owned was a piece of crap. |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. LOL |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
45. FORD=Found On Road Dead, GM=? |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
63. First on Race Day |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
15. Isn't this like satellite radio? The car may come equipped with |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. Party pooper! |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
16. Only one Flaw: You have to Buy a GM. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
62. How is authoritarian if you pay for it? |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. So, they're gonna give up passing out speeding tickets? |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Yep and there is not a municipality in the country |
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
77. If they can slow your car down, then |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
21. You'll have to pry my old car from my stiff frozen hands. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
23. When I bought my last car, they tried to sell me OnStar |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Well, unfortunately they can track you on your cell phone as well. |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. There was a case recently where ... |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Got a link to that article? |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Car Black Box |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Thanks!! n/t |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #39 |
82. We have a friend that was killed in a car crash. Last i heard, the police were... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
24. More paranoia-- you can turn OnStar off, and... |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. hahahahaha..........that's funny TB. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Great opportunity to bring back bicycles and horse drawn carriages. |
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ChazII (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 08:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
74. With our luck |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Do you have anything to back this up? |
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xynthee (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. CNet article: FBI taps cell phone mic as eavesdropping tool |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. That article clearly states this had to be implanted on the phone first |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #41 |
83. Actually the article says, "mobile providers can "remotely install a piece of software"... |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
84. Isn't that how Bobby Cutts, Jr. was caught? |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. You think this has to do with a police state? Come on now. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Oh not at all Pawel. I trust the Bush Administration and GM implicitly. |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Yes. Bush, GM, and everyone else is out to get you |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. ROFL!! You're the scary one Pawel. |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. My agenda? |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
32. if they can do all this |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
33. this is out there already- there was a police incident recently |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. Thank you for the information. I've wondered about this with the new Prius. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I can't find any link to |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. OT - I was just thinking about HAARP the other day and wondering, if they've |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
37. Wait till Vista can be installed on your car. Hillarity ensues. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. *SHUDDER* |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. aaaahhhh! run away! |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
44. Onstar has always creeped me out |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
49. And the optional nature of OnStar makes no difference? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. I doubt it |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
53. People will readily sell their soul over to corporations for a little convenience |
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bighart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
56. OMG some of you are just |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Yeah, if I decide to buy me a Corvette and I cant get a little rush of speed |
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bighart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. if you want the Corvette then this may be part of the deal. |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. It was just a little bit of sarcasm, in the performance car world of modifications... |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 08:47 AM Response to Reply #56 |
75. I don't have a problem with enforcing the speed limits, |
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Mad_Dem_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
57. I will never get a car with Onstar |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. The question is, how will you know? Onstar could simply be marketed as another program |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #65 |
79. You don't need Onstar to be monitored. |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
58. I have to say well duh |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
66. Sure wouldn't want that to happen to a car thief, would we |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
68. Automobiles are so Twentieth-Century. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
69. Oh, goodness. Think of the fun a hacker could have with this |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #69 |
81. And how, exactly, would that be noticed? |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
70. Can it keep stupid people from driving? |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Warning, Will Robinson: Nut loose behind wheel. nt. |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
72. The tiny Chicago suburb where I work gets most of its income from speeding tickets. |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
73. Damn. Someone turned the batshit crazy way up in GD today. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. I'll say. I really liked the bit about how in 2009, we'll have technology |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Indeed |
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Buns_of_Fire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
85. If "they" control speed, "they" can control acceleration... |
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