KUCINICH TO MOVE IMPEACHMENT BEFORE THANKSGIVING!

[babylonsister]

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KUCINICH TO MOVE IMPEACHMENT BEFORE THANKSGIVING!
Submitted by davidswanson on Wed, 2007-10-24 15:53. Congress | Impeachment

By Hutch, ImpeachThem.com

At 9 pm New Jersey time, Tuesday, October 23rd, in a nationwide phone call to impeach organizers presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich announced he will go before the U.S. House of Representatives on a point of personal privilege to move the impeachment of Dick Cheney. Mr. Kucinich stated he will bring the impeachment forward before Thanksgiving. As soon as we learn more details we will post them immediately. NOW's the time to put pressure on all representatives, and tell them you will support only those candidates who get on board with impeachment and Dennis Kucinich's HRes 333 to impeach Cheney. CALL NOW - here are toll-free phone numbers you can use to call congressional offices in DC: 866.340.9281 - 866.338.1015 - 877.851.6437 - 800.828.0498 - 800.459.1887 - 800.614.2803 Don't wait for tomorrow, call right now, this second - jam the capitol switchboard with our demand to restore justice and reclaim democracy. Impeach the Bush gang!

[spanone]

1. i hope dennis continues as a perpetual thorn in this cabals ass. K&R

[FREEWILL56]

9. I'll top that as I want him to be the boot in their asses.

[FREEWILL56]

42. That doesn't sound right in retrospect so I'll correct here by saying

I want him to have the boot that boots them out of their positions in office and right into jail.
That's 2 demerits for me for my bad wording before. SORRY.

[nxylas]

56. I want him to be a boot with a thorn on the toecap

So there :P

[FREEWILL56]

57. Understood,

but I don't want Dennis covered in republicon poop just to give it to them. He might get a Stupidity Transmitted Disease.
:wow:

[Bjorn Against]

60. I'll even sprinkle some holy water and garlic on the boot...

I hear Cheney really hates that stuff.

[FREEWILL56]

63. You know you may be on to something here.

Maybe we could also send W a truckfull of pretzels and a defective bike. Sooner or later it's bound to work.

[jeff30997]

72. Complete that with a Segway and...

The result is guaranteed.

[FREEWILL56]

81. Maybe we could get Cheney and Bush to go hunting together too.

We could tell Bush it is a special halloween party and get him to dress as Leahy. (forgive me if I mispelled his name) I seriously doubt if Bush will apologize to Cheney for him shooting him if he survives. If he doesn't survive Cheney can't take over as president as he'll be up on murder charges.
Disclaimer-This is in no way a terrorist plot, but just funny thoughts.
Shame you have to do a disclaimer or the ss will be knocking at my door. I have heard of other horror stories from some doing this very same thing.

[meowomon]

88. You think a disclaimer will help?

Yeh, just try getting on a plane now. It's the no fly list for you! And forget calling your friends and complaining. Soon you'll be declared an enemy combatant and poof! you've got a one way ticket to a Caribbean vacation in Gitmo!

[FREEWILL56]

99. Welcome to DU

and you're probably right that many of us including myself are on some kind of list because we still have the audacity to think outside of the (bush) box. I don't fly anyway as it's too much of a hastle for the short distances I travel.
Everyone on no fly list = Bigger corporate welfare for airline industry
I said bigger because we supposedly already bailed them out. Oh and we won't probably go to gitmo as they have some camps all ready for us spread out across the country from what I hear.

[monktonman]

2. Something to argue about over turkey dinner!

[babylonsister]

3. I'm surely not going to argue about this! nt

[monktonman]

14. Me neither but unfortunely every family has one of those.

Conventional wisdom says dont talk about god or politics at family gatherings.
My righty relatives are gonna get a full on dose of politics this year.
If DK follows through, I might even include charts and graphs in my presentation!

[babylonsister]

20. Charts and graphs!

:spray: :patriot: I have two brothers who probably wouldn't approve, but that problem is solved. We don't talk (and live in different states, so it's not likely we'd get together anyway).

[EFerrari]

4. Or, to toast to!

:toast:

[unpossibles]

11. hell yes. My father in law won't be pleased

impeachments are just for BJs apparently, and morality only applies to sex.

[Cha]

12. Depends on who you have

for Dinner, eh?

[monktonman]

18. Sometimes I wish I could choose my relatives

they say god did that for me
but I say it was a bottle of ripple
and the back seat of a chevy.

[Cha]

31. In Vermont, yet! I

revere Vermont! I love that State of the Union :)

[monktonman]

34. I get to go to Ohio for thanksgiving

Not to bag on Ohioans but going there is like traveling to another planet.
Sometimes, its hard to believe Vermont and Ohio are in the same country.

[Cha]

35. Aha! Not to bag on Thanksgiving

but I stay Home alone and fast..just the one day.

Everybody does their thing.

[RoccoR5955]

52. More like something to AGREE about over Turkeyday dinner! n/t

[lonestarnot]

5. oh shit! You beat me too it! I'll take mine down! wooo ooooo oooooohooooo ooo

[Cha]

13. ..

:D

[shenmue]

6. Yay!

I loves me some Dennis. :patriot:

[ClayZ]

7. I am thankful for that!

K and R

[Cha]

8. Great Dennis! But, watch the

fuck out for nancy cause she'll find a way to blow it off the Table. You know she doesn't like Dems messing with the decorum of "making pukeheads accountable"!

And before Thanksgiving?! Whoa! That would be a real nice Feasty Table for so many Americans..just not nancy and her gang of beltwayians.

[TahitiNut]

10. Shall we have a pool on which "Dem" rushes to the microphone first to condemn Kucinich??

Rahm? Nancy? Steney? Surely they can't let such an opportunity pass.

[babylonsister]

17. Gawd. I'm in. I'll go with Steney though they're all capable. nt

[Individualist]

30. I'd say it will be Rahm, followed by Nancy

However, DK is one who won't back down. Bravo, Dennis!

[kenfrequed]

102. Hey!

That was where I was putting my money.

Of course Rahm is just as likely to push some of his proteges to do this dirty little deed.

[TahitiNut]

103. I think a lot of folks would put their money there.

Clearly, the effete, establishment pols will certainly look down their noses as the "uppity" fellow from Cleveland.

[Richard Steele]

48. It'll be a STAMPED and a PILEUP in front of the old condemning-mic!

There's no way for me to guess who'll end up on
top of the pile.

[Richard Steele]

59. D'oh! "STAMPEDE", not "stamped". Don't I feel silly. nm

[TahitiNut]

73. Domesticated herd animals stampede ... that's why they're stamped (brainded).

Somewhere, on the torso of all "professional" politicians, is a brand or two (or more) in the shape of a corporate logo.

[guitar man]

15. This makes me proud to say

"I'm a DK Democrat"

like the old folks I knew that said they were "FDR Democrats" or "Eisenhower Republicans" etc, from this day forward, I'm a DK Democrat. The only honest person left in DC.

Godspeed DK :patriot:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

65. "I'm a Kucinich Democrat"

That feels good. :)

[RiverStone]

109. 2nd that - DK actually walks his talk!

Neither an enabler or complicit to the war. Even if the impeachment fails (probably will) the effort alone means something BIG. It means history will remember somebody tried to impeach Shooter for high crimes...some DID pay attention!

Go DENNIS!!!!!

[porphyrian]

16. Fuck yeah. - n/t

[stimbox]

19. Do it Dennis!!!!

The sooner, the better.

[bobthedrummer]

21. K&R-making more phone calls, using the t word (treason) and more n/t

[lonestarnot]

23. woot good job!

[progressoid]

22. "At 9 pm New Jersey time..."

I didn't know New Jersey had it's own time zone. :shrug:

[lazyriver]

32. Yes, it's called "Rush Hour" and lasts all damned day.

Sorry, NJ folks...I jest because I used to be one too.

[Highway61]

38. Ding...ding...ding...

Ah, same here...no truer words spoken...one big perpetual traffic jam

[spag68]

77. That's not true

Generally you can get accross I-80 between midnight and 4 in the morning pretty easily.

[mikelgb]

24. There are a cornucopia of reasons to Impeach

This turkey certainly doesn't deserve a pardon

[berni_mccoy]

25. K&R. But, I suspect Congress will Censure Kucinich for it, maybe even remove him from Congress.

[lonestarnot]

28. Oh bullshit remove him from Congress.

[OzarkDem]

29. Dennis doesn't back down

and they have no justification for removing him. Once he's made his mind up, he sticks with it.

[harun]

120. What country are you living in? 0% chance they would

remove him for doing this. All the Dem's want to Impeach Cheney and I would bet even a few Republicans at this point, with the damage their unholy alliance with the Neo-cons has done to the party (which was orchestrated by Cheney).

The ONLY reason they don't want to proceed on this is a political one. That is it will hurt the Dem's in all likelihood in the next election if they spend time on this instead of other items more important to the public. In my opinion they are correct in this. They should wait until after the next election then work on sending Cheney to the Hague for trials there. They won't be under the protections of B*sh pardons at that point either.

[Freddie Stubbs]

121. Expelling a member of the House requires a 2/3 vote

[OzarkDem]

26. No wonder the news media has been after him lately

The various trumped up stories that he "saw a UFO" showing up here, there and yon were a pre-emptive (and meritless) attack on Kucinich's credibility.

I'm making my calls....

[Freddie Stubbs]

71. Are you suggesting that the media knew that Kucinich was going to do this ahead of time?

:shrug:

[OzarkDem]

104. Yes

I'm sure they heard ahead of time. The original story about the UFO's came out just a day or so before Kucinich's announcement.

[emlev]

27. DENNIS TOLD ME...

that he'd be doing this in the next few weeks. I talked with him on the phone last night, after the conference call mentioned above.

Our phone call was a followup to my interview with him on Sunday.

[slipslidingaway]

33. Why is he doing this now???

My guess...trying to preempt an attack on Iran and WW 3 as Bush talked about recently.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=64632&mesg_id=64632

[Gregorian]

36. Thank you Dennis Kucinich. You've given me some hope.

There is a lot going on right now. So many posts on DU with serious topics. It's an exciting time, if not very frightening and frustrating. It's good to know there are even very few who carry the torch of truth and justice and care.

[rabies1]

62. Well said. Hope on Thanksgiving.

What's he got to lose? Even if it probably fails at least someone is willing to bring it to the table. God Bless Dennis.

[Gregorian]

74. Hugs.

I read your profile. That's really cool that you are now involved. I dropped out for many years only to return when the 2000 elections were underway.

It may be a frightening time, but being together helps.

[bonito]

37. K&R!

[Highway61]

39. YES!!!

I LOVE this man!!!!!!!!!

[mmonk]

40. Very good.

Force a stand.

[AntiFascist]

41. K&R, excellent !

this Kucinich guy is more impressive all the time.

[rjones2818]

43. Make Nancy Vote!!!

And Stenny...and John...and the rest of the leadership!!!

Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://dennis4president.com
Choose Peace!

[bigwillq]

44. YAY!

Thank you DK! :bounce:

[kestrel91316]

45. Kicked it right between the goal posts! And Rec.

[tekisui]

46. K&R! Go DK!!

So, he will use personal privilege to bring it up? Does that force Congress to vote on whether to hear the Resolution or vote on Impeachment. I would like a little clarification about what the vote will be.

[D23MIURG23]

47. At least there is one Dem in congress with the right sense of priority.

[RebelSansCause]

49. wow someone who does something

if stark wasn't on-board before. you can be damn sure he will be on-board now. after what those "people" did to him. democrats even. urgh. my money is on steny. pelosi is just a tool. a major tool.

EDIT: made it steny instead of rahm.

[Freddie Stubbs]

115. Stark is not currently on board

He is not among the 21 cosponsors of the bill:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HE00333:@@@P

[tekisui]

50. He said he would talk to Congress this week about chimpy needing

Impeachment consideration. Way to go Dennis! Get after it!

[redqueen]

51. *sigh*

I love that guy!

And I'll just wait patiently for all his detractors to admit they were wrong. :P

[jpgray]

53. As difficult as it may to force through, I support him all the way on this

There is far less risk in impeaching Cheney, and if successful it carries benefits almost as great as (and may readily lead to) the impeachment of Bush.

[RoccoR5955]

54. Investigate, Impeach, Imprison....

The whole lot of Bushco, Inc.

Let's shove impeachment right up Speaker Pelosi's table!

What did Darth Cheney and company do, threaten them with another anthrax thing? Threaten their families?
That's the only reason that I can honestly think of.

Start the process going before Thanksgiving, and maybe they can be in prison by New Year's Day, we can get out of this damn war, and start working on REAL problems, like climate change, and helping people get needed healthcare, and getting jobs back to this country. Damn the "global economy!"

[BelgianMadCow]

55. Brace for censure or something

great news nonetheless

[RoccoR5955]

93. If they censure Kucinich, they can censure my butt!!! n/t

[The Backlash Cometh]

58. Remember back in the days when Republicans were honest enough

to admit they made a mistake and had enough ethics to try to rectify the situation? Now, it's all about getting away with anything you can.

[earth mom]

61. Now that's what I want ON THE TABLE for Thanksgiving!

:9

[Dr Fate]

64. Sorry guys, but the "centrists" DEMS will protect Bush. This wont get far.

The "centrist" DEMS will aim more fire at him than they ever even DREAMED of aiming at Bush himself. Just watch.

[Roon]

66. Yep, I agree

this isn't going anywhere. Kuncinich will be written off as a goof ball and we on DU will be embarrassed...AGAIN!!

[Crabby Appleton]

67. yep

[toadzilla]

68. that doesnt mean he shouldnt try, and i will never be embarassed by Dennis

[Dr Fate]

69. I wont be embarassed by DK's efforts.

But if you mean that the "centrists" will let us down by protecting Bush yet again, then I agree.

[RoccoR5955]

92. Anyone who "protects" Bushco, Inc. is not a centrist...

They are part of the problem.

[Freddie Stubbs]

118. So, you think that centrist Democrats are more effective than Kucinich?

:shrug:

[pacalo]

70. I'll call Bobby Jindal right away...

[Hippo_Tron]

89. Jindal probably won't even be there

He's busy trying to see if he can be more a of a fuck up as governor than our current one.

[pacalo]

112. You got that right, baby!!!

[cutlassmama]

75. You can't have one without the other. * needs to be on his list too

[rhett o rick]

76. IMPORTANT. Help Rep Kucinich by going to your local Democratic organization and adopting

a resolution to support impeachment. If the local and state
Democratic organizations support impeachment, then our elected
representatives and Senators might pay attention. They don't
pay attention to emails, letters, and calls.  

[midnight]

78. Very glad to finally read this. I started to read this post and

it vanished before my eyes. Initially I thought the impeachment was for Bush. I know that there has been many thoughts about Cheney. I guess every little bit helps.

[Yodananda Samadhi]

80. Cheney First!

Dennis is a compassionate Being. We can indict the ham sandwiches later.

[me b zola]

82. Hi Yodananda Samadhi

Welcome to DU! :toast:

[Yodananda Samadhi]

84. Thank you.

Thank you very much.

I shall try to be worthy of this great Sangha of Free Consciousness. It is a gift to be simple; a Gift to be Free.

Blessed Be, u b zola.

[Stardust]

79. Can someone explain to me, please, why Dennis is doing so poorly in the polls?

I mean, it almost defies logic. There's an online quiz (sorry, can't remember the addy) that narrows down the right candidate for you based on your answers. And everyone I know aligns with Dennis. There's a straw poll on KPOJ and he's winning there. Yet in the national polls, even Stephen Colbert is ahead of him. I don't get it. Plenty of DUers adore him, including me. I know, these are pretty lame indicators, but I'm just sayin'...:shrug:

[Aviation Pro]

95. Because unlike any of the so-called "first tier"....

...candidates, he has no name recognition. Also, when was the last time a mere member of the House was elected President? I believe the answer is James Garfield and unless you're holding your breath to return to the days of reconstruction and carpetbaggism I think he will remain the only one.

[OzarkDem]

111. Rigged polls

Be very careful of what you read in polls during this election cycle. Most pollsters for hire have been rigging them for several years. In 2004, some of the "mainstream" polling organizations began skewing polls, even more in 2006.

Someone pointed out on a recent thread here in DU that they were contacted by a pollster (GOP owned as it turned out) who asked their opinion on Dem presidential candidates. They never mentioned Kucinich at all in the poll and when the person asked why, they made up an excuse and hung up.

Dennis' numbers may never be competitive with the top tier candidates, but there's little doubt his poll numbers are being kept artifically low by polling organizations that don't mention him in polls at all.

[NoGodsNoMasters]

83. Great Idea...

...but I'm not holding my breath. Besides, apparantly impeachment is only for democrats who get laid.

[AndyTiedye]

85. Impeach Them!

[lonestarnot]

96. I love those pics!

:donut:

[lonestarnot]

119. Just had to look at them again!

[Swamp Rat]

86. KICK ASS DENNIS!!!

:patriot:

:kick:

[calimary]

87. YOWZA! The 104th rec!

Guess a few of us must like this one...

[mnhtnbb]

90. Go, Dennis!

[LWolf]

91. He's earned my support,

my vote, and my thanks with his steadfast, unrelenting courage and willingness to act.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Freddie Stubbs]

117. By doing it, or saying that he will do it?

:shrug:

[RobertDevereaux]

94. Dennis, it's "before Thanksgiving" right now...

... do this today!

[antigop]

97. Just do it, Dennis! Do it! Do it! Do it! n/t

[rucky]

98. It will succeed.

This will spur the public outpouring we need to get Congress off the pot.

[Freddie Stubbs]

107. Succeed, as in it will pass the House, or succeed as in a conviction in the Senate?

:shrug:

[rucky]

108. Succeed as a political maneuver. n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

113. You believe that there will be an up or down vote on impeachment in the House before Thanksgiving?

:shrug:

[rucky]

114. 25 shopping days to find out. n/t

[windoe]

100. Never -entirely- trusted the polls

Remember the 'poll' before the patriot act was passed, that said 'most people say they would gladly give up some civil rights to fight terrorism?' Not all polls are fake, but some of them sure smell like it. What polls are trustworthy? (anyone know?)
This will be a real Thanksgiving if DK moves for IMPEACHMENT! Great news!

[RiverStone]

101. Dennis, you set the pace for the rest!

:yourock:

K&R!

[T.Ruth2power]

105. Pressure your reps

relentlessly.

[Vidar]

106. You're doing a great job as a worthwhile Democrat, Dennis! Too bad its a solo act.

[OzarkDem]

110. He has 21 co-sponsors so far

the list is growing....

[ShortnFiery]

116. May God Bless and Keep you Safe Dennis Kucinich?!?

:patriot: :loveya: