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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:11 PM
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Corporations as American individuals.
Corporations in America have been granted the same status as American citizens. Right? (Well, we all know they have more rights because they have the money to change laws through civil court actions, but that's not the point.)

Here's the point: Corporations are also multi-national in nature. So, does that mean that Corporations have the right to be treated as American individuals, but also have wiggle room when it comes to betraying American interests as they seek profit for the corporation?

Does anybody see how this is working at cross purposes? Shouldn't Corporations, if they're granted the same rights as an American citizen, also have to abide by the laws of citizenship?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:12 PM
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1. Corporations can vote? And they don't get in legal trouble for violating laws?
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 12:13 PM by RGBolen

oh kay
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:17 PM
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3. Practically speaking, yes they vote. Here's how:
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 12:19 PM by The Backlash Cometh
Endorsements directly and indirectly. Providing the hardware that swings elections; buying the media so that you push candidates that you want, and muffle good press for those you don't like.

And how do they get out of legal trouble? Well, it helps to have a vice-president's son on the board. i.e. Harken.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:19 PM
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5. Did you ever see A Civil Action ? Corps hardly get into 'trouble'
they pass along or jack up prices if they do; pay off pols if things get bad, and support deregulation efforts. As for 'corporate voting', their CEOs and other officials and board members all make their contributions (to the limit of the law, you can bet).
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:16 PM
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2. Individuals without souls
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:18 PM
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4. So true.
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:23 PM
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6. Individuals can be multi-national too
Plenty of American's hold dual citizenship with another country. Some even hold multiple citizenships with multiple countries (I met a guy once who had three).

So these people are multi-national in nature as well. Would you ask the same questions about them?

Corporations do have to obey the same laws in this country, as does any foreign national country that resides here for their work.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:31 PM
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8. Dual-citizenship.
I would qualify for one of those, certainly. But you bring up a good point since a lot of what is going wrong in Congress today, is coming from lobbyists who are lobbying on behalf of another country. i.e. A.I.P.A.C.

So, the question is, do people who have dual citizenship sometimes face conflicting choices of loyalties between their two countries? The answer is yes. If you have relatives in one country, and America passes a law about something, guess who you're going to side with, if it's something you think you can reasonibly get away with?

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:24 PM
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7. if corporations are persons, they should be made as mortal as persons . . .
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 12:25 PM by OneBlueSky
maximum lifespan of, say, 100 years . . . at which time they lose their charters and have to sell off all of their assets . . . and die, just like real people . . .
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:33 PM
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9. LOL! Love it.
Now THAT's thinking outside the box. Corporations are today's vampires. They're blood sucking and they never die.
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