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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 02:33 AM Original message |
Failing Schools Strain to Meet U.S. Standard |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. I have an idea |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 06:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Its already being done |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 05:50 AM Response to Original message |
3. That's a bit rose-colored |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 06:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. written so that no school can succeed... |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
6. Accelerated dismantling of Brown vs Board under guise of law. n/t |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
7. This might sound crazy but |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. It is really path to privitalization. n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. it is a plot that is not a secret. it has been told to us from the republican party |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
9. so .... the government takes over these schools. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. They then sell them. It's all about privatization. |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
10. Yet so many schools make the grade -and pass it |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. i always put the school situation on the parents. as far as schools not failing |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I think there are more people who like NCLB than you think. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. You applaud schools that teach kids to spit out factoids |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. No I don't applaud play back recorders |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Are you a teacher? |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. No, I am not currently a teacher. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. We don't have time to teach anything that isn't tested |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I have been paying attention. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. see, you dont know. i think your heart is in the right place, but you |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I agree it is happening some some schools - |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. cant have that attitude. not with sink or swim. not with do or die |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. I think the problems are in large part local. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. No I am not protecting any turf |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Credibility? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. this is my point. the teachers CAN'T waste the time teaching the other stuff |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. That is exactly what I say is the problem |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
53. The test isn't geared to the curriculum, it's become the curriculum |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. post 14. i am not into throwing out the baby with the bath water. |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. The issue of how to assess special education students |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. i am not worried about my child either. he has every advantage |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. I don't think it is dishonest to defend the principle of |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. you are making some assumptions. i have no issue with tests |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Sorry, I did make assumptions. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. i imagine so.... |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I hope you find the solution you want. |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
52. You cannot possibly have school age children |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Yes money is a large part of the answer |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Money isn't the only answer. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. IMO, sooner or later all of the schools will fail. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. this is what vp of middle school was saying. no bigger bush, republican, fundamental |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. I agree with you there are problems with NCLB |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. What don't you "buy" about my statement about the school system in my area? |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. What I mean is... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. The special ed kids included in the testing is just one example of the problem with NCLB |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. NCLB only covers schools that get Fed money |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. i will jump in. the republicans have not been shy stating they want to eliminate federally funded |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Sorry, I'm not hearing a desire to generally de-fund public schools |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Then you don't understand that special ed students |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Yes, I understand that sp. ed kids have to take and pass |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. ah ha. i moved from az to calif in '70 when calif was suppose to fall off |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. And you already have the bridge... |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. My daughter's school failed.. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Best post in the thread |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. With SOL and your description, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. if a teacher, adm or school board says doesnt work, cause NOT motivated |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
26. This is what NCLB was designed to do |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. Perhaps the crisis--if that's what it is--will finally prompt a |
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