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ncabot22 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:13 PM
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Who was worse? Lee Atwater or Karl Rove
Both men had a lot of power within the republican party. Both affected how campaigns are waged in negative ways. Who do you think is worse: Atwater or Rove.

In my opinion, Rove is. Atwater at least apologized for the way he ran campaigns. I think Rove feels/felt he was on a mission.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:15 PM
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1. Rove, but probably only because he's been at it longer...
and has had time to fine tune his treachery.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:15 PM
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2. Didn't Atwater apologize on his death bed? (n/t)
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:19 PM
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6. Yes. Lee Atwater is the father of what we are witnessing today.
Rove learned from Atwater. He admired him. Rove thinks Atwater's deathbed redemption was nothing more than the rambling of someone fearing death. :dem:
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:23 PM
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7. The father of the "southern strategy"...
and its lasting effects. They're both "bad," but at least one has gone on to meet his maker...
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:17 PM
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3. I vote Rove, the man (if human), who helped politicize
every agency of the federal government, under the most corrupt administration in the history of the United States.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:18 PM
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4. Rove.....
....he is just such a mega weasel. :puke:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:18 PM
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5. Difficult to say
since Atwater died before he could have a lasting impact as did Rove. However, I think that Atwater would have been much, much worse than Rove had he the opportunity.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:36 PM
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8. I vote for Rove. What a fascinating and disturbing question!
Let's see. Atwater rose in power and worked behind the scenes for Reagan, who was diagnosed with Alzheimers within 10 years. Rove rose in power and worked for Bush, who......? :shrug:
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ncabot22 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:01 PM
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11. Thanks
I was just pondering the question tonight and thought I'd get some input from DUers.

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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:56 PM
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9. Atwater and Rove were "close"
Atwater was a trusted advisor of U.S. Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush. He was also a political mentor and close friend of Karl Rove. Atwater invented many of the techniques of modern smashmouth politics, a style of politicking that attempts to destroy the careers and reputations of political opponents.

wikipedia

I never realized this until I looked up Atwater to refresh my memory
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ncabot22 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:59 PM
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10. Yes, I didn't realize
Atwater was a mentor to Rove. I found this interesting article on Wikipedia. It was written by a man who was one of Atwater's early victims.

http://www.turnipseed.net/atwaterart.htm
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:18 PM
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12. Rove is worse.
Atwater could play guitar.


And he's dead.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:22 PM
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13. Atwater was John the anti-Baptist; Rove the antiChrist.
Darth Vader learned well from the Emperor and finally outdid him in his evil ness.
god, don't ask me to write anything that makes sense tonight....
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:33 PM
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16. yup...
the Gog and Magog of the political arena...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:25 PM
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14. Rove, because Atwater is dead.
Thank goodness.


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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:27 PM
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15. Rove
is Bad News
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:47 PM
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17. Rove!! Definitely!!
Karl Rove will never, ever, ever see that he did anything wrong.
At least when Lee Atwater was on his death bed he seemed to have at least some remorse and some
idea of the consequences of his actions.
Rove actually thinks what he was doing was right and he will never regret it.
:grr:
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