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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:50 AM Original message |
Pelosi Asks for Impeachable Offenses |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. HELLO! |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
120. how about her swearing to uphold the Constitution and not doing |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
122. Well let's see. I can think of a housewife in NH and one in FL who knew of... |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
138. And if you look at this thread, |
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dickbearton (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:11 AM Response to Reply #138 |
178. Why, because they are complicit Dinos ( Corrupt Republicans or Corrupt Republican Stooges). |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. can they "pass the congress"? |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. I guess Pass the House is what she means-a reasonable move since not passing would be seen as OK'ing |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
30. IMO you impeach anyway |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #30 |
62. it will never get to a vote impeaching |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 07:31 AM Response to Reply #62 |
201. NO, it goes to Committee first for investigations first |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
146. And so much more would come out ... |
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southerncrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
179. Exactly. |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
51. Yeah, that was a nice qualifier wasn't it? |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #51 |
84. If the gun is empty, why pull the trigger? n/t |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #84 |
111. In this case the gun has... |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #111 |
119. Wrong, there are not enough votes, the gun is empty |
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f the letter (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #119 |
127. This argument is trouble. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #127 |
184. That argument is not just trouble - it's cowardice. |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 08:05 AM Response to Reply #184 |
205. Yes, you're right, I'm not brave enough to choose the solution that won't work... |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 07:46 AM Response to Reply #127 |
204. You don't care about the votes? Then you don't care about solving the problem.... |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #204 |
221. You will never get the votes if it's not on the floor agenda. |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #119 |
140. Yes, you pull the trigger. |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 07:45 AM Response to Reply #140 |
203. This is no time for maintenance.... |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #203 |
222. It's not? |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #203 |
235. So you load the gun. |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #235 |
238. So impeaching W is loading what gun for what? |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #119 |
143. Yes, so give up and fold without a fight. |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 08:06 AM Response to Reply #143 |
206. Yes, because obviously impeachment and giving up are the only possible choices.... |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #206 |
213. Perhaps you should give some thought to this. |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #213 |
216. Avoidance? You really can't think of an option between immediate impeachment and giving up... |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #119 |
164. I matter, and I don't know this. Impeachment is the moral, practical thing to do... |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 08:12 AM Response to Reply #164 |
208. You don't matter very much. You don't vote on impeachment |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #208 |
234. Actually, I matter greatly because I am one small piece of the hologram... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:36 AM Response to Reply #119 |
183. It's hard to stop the funding when the Dem leadership continues to bring funding bills to the floor. |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #183 |
210. Right. Then why do you think impeachment has a chance |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 02:42 AM Response to Reply #119 |
192. So when lady liberty is being attacked and raped |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #192 |
211. Here's yet another peson who imagines only two options... |
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f the letter (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #211 |
214. i would like to be innocent enough to believe that |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #214 |
217. Yes, as I said in the previous post, the place to begin is with people in the street.... |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #217 |
219. Sorry I dissagree that it's our fault. |
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WGS (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #111 |
215. Then |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
83. No, they probably can't n/t |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
3. How many letters listing them all does she need? - n/t |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
27. let's send her a list to refresh her memory. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
4. That interview was just feeble |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
39. And revealing... |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
5. Nance, were you around when Clinton was prez? |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. You want to repeat someone else's mistake? This is not intelligence |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Yes, the GOP pursuit of Clinton was idiocy... my point was a matter of scale |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
86. If you're not aware of the legal presumptions, I could understand |
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dmr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
31. You cannot accuse any DUer of political payback. That's insulting. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:54 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Nonsense. We are responsible for moderating ourselves |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
151. Let's "lead" by following the Constitution ... and protecting it.... using impeachment --- |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
95. thanks, dmr... and you're very correct |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Impeachment is a political event, |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:47 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Don't lecture the child of a holocaust survivor 'bout justice: ain't none |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Yes, a previous generation did a much better job... |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Whoah, imperialism is not the Nazi genocide machine |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. 1 million civilian dead in Iraq |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #49 |
64. Mistakes, however tragic are not high crimes or misdemeanors |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #64 |
76. Not mistakes |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. But if there's doubt, we lose big |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #78 |
87. Impeachment is political, not legal |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. I had a long discussion with my legal consultant |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #78 |
97. there is no doubt... there is ample documentation |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #64 |
186. Inform yourself, you're spreading the lie that it was a mistake. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Saddam sealed his fate by paying the families of suicide bombers |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. That;'s unfortunate |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #52 |
63. I recognize that we're on the same side. My hero is headed to the |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #38 |
223. You should be ashamed to throw up about there |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
70. But the high crimes and misdemeanors do have to hold up in Congress |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #70 |
80. Children really want things ... adults should make rational decisions |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #80 |
90. Agreed. |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #80 |
170. Adults, in accordance with the Constitution of the United States of America... |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #70 |
125. Cool picture!!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #34 |
152. You're making a fear-based argument . .... turn the TVs off and you also turn off their power -- !! |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #152 |
224. Motion seconded. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #34 |
153. You're making a fear-based argument . .... turn the TVs off and you also turn off their power -- !! |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
60. See post #43 below |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. A trend is a trend. |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #68 |
77. I think the impeachment of Clinton... |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Unethical success? I can easily walk away from that |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #81 |
92. I grant you this |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Agreed and in this case, Dems are not imitating Republicans |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #77 |
154. Bush didn't "win the White House" in 2000 -- |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
74. "Cheap payback" & "Satisfying politcal theater"... What a tool! |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #74 |
98. spot on, that... and I agree with your prediction |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #74 |
104. Is it not a fundamental of political science... |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #104 |
226. "Is it not a fundamental of political science... |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #226 |
241. I left a word out, too |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #104 |
229. I apoligize as I misread you. |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #74 |
124. I also agree with that n/t |
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bluescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
130. About judicial review |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
148. "Cheap payback" .. . ??? !!!!! "Bad Acts" . .. ??? !!!! The GOP made a mockery of impeachment .... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
149. Are you saying that impeaching Clinton's penis was PAYBACK for the impeachment of NIxon???? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
185. Holding criminals accountable for their crimes is "cheap payback"? |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
85. ... that will pass congress... |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
6. Unfrickingbelievable.... |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
88. Yeah, great, I'm sure corporate media will fairly cover the impeachment.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #88 |
150. Anyone see signs of MSM cracking . . . ? |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 08:31 AM Response to Reply #150 |
212. Apparently impeachment has magical powers to .... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #212 |
220. No . . . Impeachment doesn't have "magical powers" ...but investigating crime .... |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #220 |
225. We have investigated and the crimes have been reported .... |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #225 |
230. What polls are you reading? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:59 AM Response to Reply #225 |
242. I don't know what polls you're looking at, but since when is MSM asking about impeachment???? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:43 AM Response to Reply #88 |
187. How is that WORSE than your solution, which is to let murderous criminals get away with it? |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 07:42 AM Response to Reply #187 |
202. You have no idea what my solution is.... |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
7. What is in the articles of Impeachment introduced by Kucinich against Cheney? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:10 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Full text of articles here: |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:21 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Thanks. Maybe many in Congress are affraid for their political lives |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I think the Dems are so focused on 08 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
155. Kucinich is right and we should follow his lead -- not Pelosi's ..... |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
36. That is the real reason Pelosi won't impeach |
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Oak2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
117. That, I have suspected, is the REAL reason |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
172. Yes. Maybe that is true. And I am forced to think about the troops... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
180. Pelosi voted against the IWR. In fact a large majority of Dems in the House, and something like |
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againes654 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
110. You go after Cheney first |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
8. Hey Nancy |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
89. Read her whole statement, she didn't just ask for offenses... |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
10. "here's a little red meat, peons... now GET OFF MY LAWN!" |
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lynnertic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
42. bingo |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
101. yep, but it was "my sidewalk" instead of "my property" |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
13. So why don't one of you email her the impeachable offenses? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Are you serious? People have been protesting her for months, sending |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. See post #17 |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
91. As she said, she's waiting for the charge that will pass congress... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
15. "that can pass the Congress" is the operative phrase in her statement |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Exactly |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. The Downing Street Minutes provide proof we were lied into |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Considering that this memo was made public over two years ago, |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I honestly don't think enough attention has been paid to this, and |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
181. Nothing is good enough for this congress. Period. bush could eat a baby live on tv and they |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:04 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. But that's not good enough for Congress. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I know Conyers had that meeting in the basement when Dems were |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #29 |
53. Then that's where the real issue is, isn't it? |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Please Watch The Video Here, And Then Get Back To Us !!! |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. The video's not going to change a thing |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
156. Jesus Dude... It's The Impeachment That GETS You The Evidence !!! |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #156 |
165. I wonder how many people who read and post at DU understand that impeachment... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 06:19 AM Response to Reply #165 |
196. You have to have all your evidence in order or else pay the consequences of humiliation by rightwing |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #196 |
232. This argument has been made over and over. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
162. And BTW... Did You Bother To Watch The Video ??? |
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alllyingwhores (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
177. The ASSHOLE is on video tape admitting that he spied illegally without warrants! |
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woodsprite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
24. Someone should send her a bumper sticker that says |
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Spurt (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
32. There you have her confession.. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Love that last para., Spurt! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
72. I'm betting blackmailed. Weapons-grade anthrax delivery, anyone? n/t |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
33. Ok...now I know for certain I live in a different Universe than Nancy. Is she |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
173. Or is she delusional? In an interview a few days ago, she was once again... |
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nikto (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #173 |
176. It's starting to look like "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers"... |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
231. She can't think we're that stupid |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
37. this is what was needed for nixon to resign |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. As I said in a prior post on this thread |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. No, that's not a smoking gun |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. so If Nixon had maintained "I don't remember" that would have gotten him off? |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. No, because there was corroborating evidence that Nixon committed crimes |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #65 |
100. I'm not saying he was behind it |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. Certainly his statements are curious |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. And I'm not saying they do |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. That I agree with |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
157. The Anthrax attacks are also traceable to inside government . . .. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #37 |
57. Exactly. We have the perfect storm |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
236. "For gods sake, they can't even get the repukes to vote to restore habeas corpus." |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #37 |
69. The "smoking gun" is not on secret tapes -- it was broadcast by television to the entire world. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
93. Do you mean the 16 words? |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #93 |
103. 16 words? What? There are volumes of words that are evidence. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. EXACTLY! |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. Take just that one example. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. And the mountains of evidence point to who? |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. To whom. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. This is exactly what I have been arguing for for months |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:47 AM Response to Reply #107 |
188. Impeachment IS investigations. That's how they work. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #69 |
158. Exceedingly true --- !!!! I doubt our Founders intended us to keep a president in office . . . |
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dmr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
43. Turley on NSA Spying: “I don’t know of a more potential charge of impeachment” |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Thank you! for finding those quotes! I also have great respect for |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #43 |
59. "Potential charge of impeachment" |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Exactly |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #43 |
67. I'm amazed that Turley sold you a bill of goods. Have you forgotten |
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Done (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
45. We should apologize to Hitler. |
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Michael101 (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
132. Russians defeated the Germans. We came in so late just to claim victory. |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
239. That wasn't illegal |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
50. Traitorous. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
54. Oh please. She will not read them if they were printed in gold letters. |
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T.Ruth2power (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
56. So |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
58. her only job as Speaker is to lie, handwave, obfuscate and dance naked on tables if necessary |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
71. The only conclusion I can draw is that she doesn't value Iraqi and/or troops' lives |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
73. She needs to get an amazon account pronto! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
75. Mmm. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
79. Nancy, talk to Kucinich |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
82. Wow. Surprising. More anti-Democratic spin |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #82 |
102. It's not undemocratic to call party leaders on their bs. |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #82 |
168. Is it "Democratic" to enable criminals? "J'accuse" is the duty of every elec ted official... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
99. Sounds like Nancy is calling |
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dmr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
109. This is a great discussion thread, |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
112. I did an investigation on this some time back: |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
115. Nancy, reach into this grab-bag for starters: |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
121. Impeach Cheney first - but Nancy, we still have to make the effort! |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
123. Ya gotta be kidding me... |
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Reader Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
126. Is this a trick question? |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
128. Dear Lord... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
129. "Passing Congress" is half the battle... |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. The Dems have succeeded in running down the clock. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. First we need to stand up to the centrist Democrats.... |
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Michael101 (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
131. What a Stupid Bitch.Only someone as dumb as her would cheer for Hillary Clinton |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
134. get out all the investigations done by Conyers for a start. |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #134 |
171. Yes! And for a finish! nt |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
135. THAT WOULD PASS CONGRESS ???????? |
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TheUniverse (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
136. I see at least 15 impeachable offences here... |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
139. "Impeachment is off the table" but I didn't say aything about under it... |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
141. Impeachment would be pointless at this point. We win by winning the election. |
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FunMe (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
142. No credibility ... :puke: |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
144. There is concern that Bush was actually gathering information on ... |
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deacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
145. She's hopeless. She should just resign. n/t |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
147. Nancy its time for you to get off the table... Hey that dollar is for beer... n/t |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
159. oh whatever nancy. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
160. Nancy, do your fucking job or resign! |
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Bethany Rockafella (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
161. She's not so tough. n/t |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
163. I think what she's saying is |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
166. MAYBE SOMEBODY SUCKED THE CHIMP'S DICK????? |
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NoGodsNoMasters (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
167. I would LOVE impeachment, but... |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
169. Nancy ??? - That Question Is Impeachably Offensive In Its Own Right !!! |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
174. Nixon was charged with 'endeavoring to misuse the CIA' |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
175. When Pelosi starts asking me how to do *HER* job it's time for her to get the boot!!! |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 06:22 AM Response to Reply #175 |
197. Just think, we could have had Harold Ford ! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
182. If anyone knows...? She can't be serious. |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
189. All she just has to do is just look at the articles Kucinich has put forward in HR 333 |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
190. She was bluffing. Forget it- these party leaders could never pull it off. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
191. Firing prosecutors because they wouldn't break the law for Bush is also clearly a "high crime." nt |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
193. ....... |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 03:56 AM Response to Original message |
194. Nancy Pelosi is all three monkeys |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
195. I think the operative part of her sentence is/was..."that can pass congress..." |
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bigscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
198. Pelosi is a fucking idiot |
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liberal hypnotist (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
199. There is a lot of $$$ and power during "war time." |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
200. Put impeachment on the table and serve it up!!! |
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SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
207. Was ever her right to take impeachment "off the table"? |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
209. she's an asshole. i've got the bush aversion for pelosi too. n/t |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
218. Perhaps she should actually read H.Res. 333. n/t |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
227. Holy Crap! |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
228. And just what do we charge him with? |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
233. She wants us to list the crimes in case she hasn't immunized the Bush Admin from one of them. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
237. In the words of Bugs Bunny... |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
240. I know where Nancy can find the impeachable offenses. |
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