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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:30 PM
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(In)Justice Clarence Thomas says progressives are as bad as southern racists
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 10:32 PM by jefferson_dem


"These people who claim to be progressive … have been far more vicious to me than any southerner," Thomas says, "and it is purely ideological."

Thomas talks about the virulent racism he encountered growing up in the segregated South, when blacks were considered second-class citizens and kept separate from whites by law, and he equates those attitudes with the stereotypes he believes people hold today.

"People get bent out of shape about the fact that when I was a kid, you could not drink out of certain water fountains. Well, the water was the same. My grandfather always said that, 'The water's exactly the same.' But those same people are extremely comfortable saying I can't drink from this fountain of knowledge," Thomas says. "They certainly don't see themselves as being like the bigots in the South. Well, I've lived both experiences. And I really don't see that they're any different from them."

He says his critics — the people who question whether he is smart or qualified to be on the Court or who suggest he merely does what a white Supreme Court colleague dictates — are as also as bigoted as the whites of his childhood in the deep South.

"People feel free to say about me what they think about lots of blacks," Thomas said in an interview in his chambers at the Supreme Court. "Because of the heterodox views I've taken, they have license to say it about me with impunity."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3664143&page=1
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:32 PM
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1. He's a dumb piece of crap.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:34 PM
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2. Thomas Would Be An Ass No Matter What His Skin Color Was
His rant makes no sense at all.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:35 PM
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3. heterodox?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:40 PM
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7. Abnormal. Different.
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 10:43 PM by jefferson_dem
Like he is from those Justices who are actually fit and "weighty" enough to don the black robes and sit on the SCOTUS bench.

To think this little man fills the seat once occupied by Thurgood Marshall is one of the greatest travesties in American history.
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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:06 AM
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42. heterodox - something other than orthodox
from the Greek "heteros" - other , and "doxia"- speech.

BTW, people with eighth grade educations, an often repeated slander against Thomas, don't know what "heterodox" means.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:35 PM
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4. Don't go there, Clarence
Not with me.

I certainly don't loathe you for the color of your skin.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:35 PM
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5. He needs to drink more from the knowledge fountain and rewrite this paragraph:
"People get bent out of shape about the fact that when I was a kid, you could not drink out of certain water fountains. Well, the water was the same. My grandfather always said that, 'The water's exactly the same.' But those same people are extremely comfortable saying I can't drink from this fountain of knowledge," Thomas says. "They certainly don't see themselves as being like the bigots in the South. Well, I've lived both experiences. And I really don't see that they're any different from them."

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Because as it stands it makes no sense!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:42 PM
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10. It's no surprise the dipshit never asks questions from the bench or authors opinions.
n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:58 PM
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17. has he ever been asked why he never does this ?
i mean, how the fuck do you get on the supreme court and just sit there without saying anything.

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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:10 AM
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44. I understood what he was saying perfectly
He is accusing elites of creating a seperate body of orthodoxy that blacks must "drink" from.

I'm not sure it is a perfect analogy but I can understand what he is saying. What he is really saying is he wants the ability to hold opinions of his own, even if they are ones that are suppossedly "white", eg, to be a conservative.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:37 PM
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6. oh Thomas
Only in his twisted little mind would people that tried to ensure blacks had equality with whites were worse than whites that would have been happy to drag him from the tailbumper of a pickup truck. Does he really believe his own shit, or does he just want to sell books like Ann Coulter does?
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:10 AM
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32. I think he actually believes it. He has that syndrome where the oppressed
identify with the oppressors, so as not to feel inferior.
Plus, listening to him, I never get the impression that he really knows what a progressive is.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:41 PM
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8. What an asshole.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:27 AM
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45. You must be a bigot if you point out that he's an asshole.
Or that he's a hypocrite, or that he's a liar, or that he's a fool.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:42 PM
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9. That may be true - but he's still a intellectually bankrupt piece of shit....
... And they'll never, ever like you, Clarence. Never.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:53 PM
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14. Ooo...details?
How may that be true?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:54 PM
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15. eh?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:59 PM
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19. You said that Thomas' charge "may be true".
I'm just curious as to why you think that.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:01 PM
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20. Because it may be - I haven't the slightest. But it doesn't matter, since it's...
... irrelevant to his worthlessness.

Methinks you're reading WAAAAY to much into the word "may". But it may be that you're not.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:07 PM
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21. Well, with your endless love of DUers and the left one can never be sure.
So I thought I'd ask.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:25 PM
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24. Don't equate "left" with "stupid".
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:33 PM
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26. Good advice...hope you take it.
;)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:43 PM
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11. Shirley, this book is an example of why Clarence is unfit for the Supreme Court . . ..
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 10:43 PM by defendandprotect
and the American Bar Association didn't see that he was fit for it either --!!!

"Unqualified" then . . . . "unqualified" now --



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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:50 PM
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12. Affirmative action for him, but no one else. Dumbass. n/t
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:51 PM
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13. Well, all the progressives who fought for equal rights and
opportunity had nothing to do with him having the chance to sit on the Supreme Court. I guess we progressives were perhaps too successful.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:58 PM
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16. He's right
It is idealogical. It's because he's an extreme right boot-boy.

Clarence Thomas was picked for teh SCOTUS purely to give a black face to extreme-right views. He is possibly the only person still living in denial of that fact.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:59 PM
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18. This midget stands on the shoulders of giants & thinks he himself is 20 feet tall
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 10:59 PM by Hekate
The very idea that he was seen as the "replacement" for Thurgood Marshall is ludicrous.

Sorry Clarence, I've devoted years of my life to working for equal opportunity and affirmative action, and it's YOU I don't like. It's definitely not the color of your skin -- I judge you by the content of your sexist and ultra-conservative character.

Hekate
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:14 PM
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22. I don't know the bloke, and from comments I probably don't want to.
However, the basic sense of what he appears to be saying is correct.

There is very little to tell between a hate filled bigot, and a progressive do gooder with your best interests at heart. Because whilst that do gooder may not hate you, he often does still consider you as "less" than he is as a human being; unable to fend for yourself without his (often unasked for) advocacy.

Both are bigots. But the first is at least honest. Wrong, but honest about his feeling. The second is neither honest, nor right.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:40 PM
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28. As a blanket statement that is utter horseshit.
The very reason progressives fought and died for equal rights for blacks is because progressives considered them equals. Your statement is just as stupid as Thomas'.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:58 AM
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36. As a blanket statement about all progressives it is indeed horseshit.
My statement however was not about ALL progressives.

It's the many "self appointed progressive watchdogs" who will "do what's best for me" whether I want it or not. The sort who think they are doing so much good, and still use phrases like "your/their kind".

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qdemn7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:08 AM
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37. There are plenty of self-styled Progressives
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 02:09 AM by qdemn7
Right here on DU whom are quite Authoritarian. Who think THEY know what is best for OTHER people. Concerning say Pornography, Guns, Drugs. The notion that all Progressives are enlightened and / or free-thinkers is utter horseshit.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:30 AM
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46. That's a heavy duty statement
'The notion that all Progressives are enlightened and / or free-thinkers is utter horseshit.





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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:35 AM
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47. not so fast
Did every "progressive" out there favor equal rights because it was the right thing to do, or simply because it was expedient and beneficial to their own interests?

Moreover, I think Clarence Thomas isn't oppossed to equal rights, he's oppossed to Affirmative Action, for reasons that are clear, but disputable. Assertions that he cannot critique affirmative action because he benefits from it himself are nothing but extensions of the ad hominem tu quoque fallacy.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:00 AM
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40. Crap, Pure And Simple nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:17 PM
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23. No, it's just you, Clarence.
:rofl:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:28 PM
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25. Several black women accused him of sexual harrasment but
he spins that as racism. The Congress of mostly cowards voted for him because they were afraid of being
accused of of racial bias if they refused his appointment. The irony!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:41 PM
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29. I think that appointment was near the beginning of our national insanity. nt
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:01 AM
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41. Yep! nt
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:34 PM
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27. what a twit. stay home and masturbate, Clarence.
I hear there's a successor to long dong silver in action now.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 12:14 AM
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30. Thanks. I'll echo that.
I didn't know what to say as I scanned the responses. And then you said what was formulating in my mind.

I would like to add an "eat me" as if that would ever happen from Long John Thomas.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 12:31 AM
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31. Put a pubic hair on another can of Coke, retard
We really need a sexist pig like Clarence Thomas lecturing us about our morality. :puke:
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:23 AM
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33. Uh, progressives don't really take to fascists
Clarence Thomas is a bitter, crazed, delusional man who needs to retire.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:24 AM
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34. one of the most dangerous guys in the usa
we are in big trouble when tony thinks he`s nuts...roberts is the most dangerous guy in the usa-his court overturned a ruling from the late 1800`s. he`s going after every "liberal" ruling since the new deal.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:33 AM
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35. Isn't he the supreme who has to copy off someone elses paper
because he has nothing intelligent to say?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:20 AM
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38. MLK Must Be Rolling Over...
I have never seen an attack on this scumbag based on the color of his skin. Doesn't this shit stain recognize who stood with his brothers and sisters to eliminate Jim Crow laws and "separate but equal"? Was it his buddies like Strom Thurmond or Trent Lott? Hell, while I consider Joe Lieberman lower than low, at least he headed south like many in the 60's to fight against the blatant racism that considered his father 3/5th of a human. Where was he during the 60s?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:42 AM
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39. Haha
He's still dumb as a post. Still doing that "racist progressives drove me to the 'Racism, what Racism?' Party" schtick.

Maybe if he hadn't insisted in his confirmation hearings that he'd never, not once, had a serious discussion with anyone about Roe v Wade, people wouldn't say he was dumb. Which is after all, the charitable conclusion, the other being that he's a fat fucking LIAR.

20 years of squalling about racism with the likes of Rehnquist and Thurmond by your side, it's been an embarassing spectacle. Way past time to get over it, Clarence.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:09 AM
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43. The Life of a Lucky Idiot.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:58 AM
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48. On the bright side though, in the past few days he's used up his quota of words for the next 16 yrs.
Going by his silence on all things over the past 16, that is.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:04 AM
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49. Sellout.
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