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FreeState
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Wed Feb-07-07 03:54 PM Original message |
You know what I find offensive? |
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Rosemary2205
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Wed Feb-07-07 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. k and r and hugs. |
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ThomCat
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Wed Feb-07-07 03:57 PM Original message |
I agree. |
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redqueen
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Wed Feb-07-07 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. "we're stronger than many of those "manly" straight men" |
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FreeState
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
11. You got that right |
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redqueen
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Wed Feb-07-07 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. Very well put... thank you very much for sharing that. |
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porphyrian
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Wed Feb-07-07 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'll kick that. - n/t |
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Solly Mack
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Wed Feb-07-07 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. Bravo!!! |
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helderheid
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. I've already R'd. Now kicking. I was raised Quaker in Logan, UT |
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FreeState
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Logan |
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JackBeck
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Delete. |
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mikelgb
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. kick |
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KenHodson
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. Sounds terrible - was anyone in your family supportive? |
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Deleted sub-thread |
FreeState
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. My families is coming around... |
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helderheid
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. You really hit the nail on the head! (I almost typed head on the nail) |
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salin
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Glad to hear they are coming around. |
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L A Woman
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
10. yeah, i've found it shocking... |
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Maven
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
12. That about sums it up |
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JackBeck
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
14. I know how you feel. |
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nam78_two
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. K&R.nt |
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democrank
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
17. Thanks for posting this. |
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patricia92243
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
19. Hate against women fuels homophobia???? I don't understand that statement. |
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JackBeck
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Misogyny is hatred for women. |
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FreeState
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Gender norms |
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soothsayer
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
49. Ever read "Labeling Women Deviant"? Shur agrees with you. |
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FreeState
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. I haven't read it (yet) |
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truedelphi
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Thu Feb-08-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #49 |
147. Experiences that women a genertion ago had are rather telling |
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ThomCat
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. It's pretty simple when you think about it. |
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salin
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Wow - more and more clear |
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Scriptor Ignotus
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
40. gender roles |
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ThomCat
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Your predisposition to a certain "typical" gender role |
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Scriptor Ignotus
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. you can't read a book about black or gay people |
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Left Is Write
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
80. I agree with you - |
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raccoon
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Thu Feb-08-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #80 |
130. And think about how people say about girls, |
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raccoon
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Thu Feb-08-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
129. Well said, ThomCat! |
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L A Woman
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. There's actually a really good book about this... |
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Scriptor Ignotus
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
52. nah |
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Deleted sub-thread |
HarukaTheTrophyWife
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
81. The lesbian porn you are thinking of is all straight women performing for straight men. |
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L A Woman
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
89. huh? what does that have to do with anything? |
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Solly Mack
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. Real simple. Gay men are called effeminate, girlie, sissy etc |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
58. And it starts in elementary school, when the male P.E. teacher |
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Solly Mack
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Wed Feb-07-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Yes..it starts the very second someone tells a boy |
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stanwyck
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Wed Feb-07-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
117. You've never heard all the derogatory terms |
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mzteris
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. k&r |
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gratuitous
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
22. That is indeed offensive |
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ThomCat
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I'm a guy, and I frequently recognize sexism. |
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. And I frequently recognize homophobia |
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ThomCat
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. How would I know? |
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FreeState
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Laughter doesn't equal approval |
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Cerridwen
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. I think it's not so much about the times that we do or miss when |
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Felinity
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
48. I don't think we're bad if we don't recognize every such instance |
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pacalo
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
27. I have so much compassion for you, FreeState... |
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FreeState
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. That is heartbreaking |
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ruiner4u
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
28. YUP!... |
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gaspee
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
37. Well said |
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ThomCat
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. That's awesome! |
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me b zola
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
111. lol, I had to check your profile to see where you are from... |
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cui bono
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Fri Feb-09-07 04:48 AM Response to Reply #39 |
162. I don't like the term tomboy. It's almost the same as equating a boy to a girl |
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Cerridwen
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
41. I'm sorry you went through that. |
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swimboy
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Thu Feb-08-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #41 |
135. I love that! |
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
42. Indeed. The dismissal of homophobia as "trivial" |
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ChairmanAgnostic
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
43. fuck 'em, and I don't mean in a biblical sense. |
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MuseRider
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Wed Feb-07-07 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
44. FreeState |
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FreeState
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Hugs back |
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MuseRider
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. I totally agree with you. |
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belladonna
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
50. Beautifully said! |
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Duncan Grant
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
51. Thanks for a powerful post! |
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keepCAblue
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. K&R ... Couldn't have said it better. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME
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Wed Feb-07-07 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
57. I Agree With Some And Disagree With Some. |
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FreeState
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Wed Feb-07-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Some thoughts |
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Maven
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Wed Feb-07-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. You're wrong on all three points, but particularly the third. |
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JackBeck
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Wed Feb-07-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Why read what other people think |
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Wed Feb-07-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Deleted sub-thread |
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Not Sure Why You Felt The Need For The Empty And Baseless Attack. Are You Short On Substance? |
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JackBeck
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Nope. |
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Deleted sub-thread |
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Oh piSHAW! I'm 5' even! |
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JackBeck
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. For a guy, I'm kind of short. |
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helderheid
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #86 |
104. According to UPS she got her shirt! |
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JackBeck
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. We marched right next to each other last March (?) in the anti-war march in NYC. |
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ThomCat
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. Actually, you're being pointed towards the substance. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Yet Another Empty And Mindless Attack. Try Civility Sometime, Will Ya? |
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. It's Not A Matter Of Right Or Wrong; It's A Matter Of Opinion. Your Black And White Thinking Isn't |
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Maven
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. And your penchant for needless contrarianism isn't conducive to healing, either. |
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. My Post Was Perfectly Fine Though Your Provocation Isn't. Since You Obviously Can't Discuss Context, |
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Okay |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #83 |
92. Again, You Have Completely Misread Context And Are Now Twisting Premise. |
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ThomCat
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Wed Feb-07-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. That would imply that there is no relationship |
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Wed Feb-07-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. There were a lot of hateful posts yesterday, OMC |
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Well I Wholeheartedly Agree That Anyone Who Acted In Such Ways Should Be Ashamed Of Themselves. |
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Wed Feb-07-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #71 |
96. The last couple days there have been some appalling posts. |
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Wed Feb-07-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Were They Alerted Upon? Personally, I Think Intolerance Or Pseudo Mockery Of Someone Based On |
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uppityperson
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Wed Feb-07-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. verymuch so and I think the mods were very busy |
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Oeditpus Rex
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
101. There are progressively large differences |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #101 |
107. OR. You couldn't have nailed it better. |
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Oeditpus Rex
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Thanks |
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Thu Feb-08-07 12:47 AM Response to Reply #57 |
121. you don't see what homophobia has to do with misogyny? the two are inseparable, |
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Wed Feb-07-07 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
59. I'm glad this is on the Greatest Page. Because it deserves to be. |
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RandomKoolzip
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Thu Feb-08-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #59 |
134. Hey terry: |
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Wed Feb-07-07 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
62. FreeState, my friend... |
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Wed Feb-07-07 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
63. I think the offensiveness of that commerical |
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Wed Feb-07-07 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
64. K&R |
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BoneDaddy
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Wed Feb-07-07 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
67. So be offended |
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Maven
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Wed Feb-07-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. . |
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BoneDaddy
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Wed Feb-07-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #70 |
94. of course |
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Maven
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. Well, that was my point, actually. |
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Thu Feb-08-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #94 |
160. But isn't this the whole point of being left-wing/ liberal: that one wants things that presently |
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #67 |
105. Why are you extrapolating an "everyone has to accept me" argument? That's not what the OP says. |
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BoneDaddy
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Wed Feb-07-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #105 |
114. I get your point |
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Duncan Grant
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Wed Feb-07-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. Please consider the "hide thread" feature. |
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BoneDaddy
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Thu Feb-08-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #118 |
127. That is fine with me |
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Duncan Grant
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Thu Feb-08-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #127 |
140. As I said previously, I don't expect you to ACCEPT me. |
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BoneDaddy
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Thu Feb-08-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #140 |
141. Again I think you are not getting it |
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Duncan Grant
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Thu Feb-08-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. What's "unrealistic" about expecting the same basic rights as every other American? |
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BoneDaddy
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Thu Feb-08-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #144 |
148. Once again you are missing my point |
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Thu Feb-08-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #67 |
137. is it too much to expect those bigots not to be DUers? |
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bliss_eternal
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Fri Feb-09-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #67 |
161. Then why did you respond...? |
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BoneDaddy
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Fri Feb-09-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #161 |
163. Not really |
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Fri Feb-09-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #163 |
165. Your generosity is overwhelming. |
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Fri Feb-09-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. Deleted message |
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Fri Feb-09-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. kick |
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Fri Feb-09-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #67 |
170. 'But you are not the only ones who suffer. Everyone does.' |
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blonndee
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Fri Feb-09-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Dear gays: shut up already about your suffering |
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LoZoccolo
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
78. self-delete |
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Nikia
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
79. I agree that homophobia is rooted in sexism |
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
85. We all have different issues |
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
88. Having to prove your manliness- |
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
90. Well said. n/t |
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Wed Feb-07-07 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
91. Be who you are... |
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Donald Ian Rankin
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Wed Feb-07-07 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
95. You have a right to take offence at anything you like. But not to do more than that. |
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uppityperson
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Wed Feb-07-07 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
97. Me too. |
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dsc
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Wed Feb-07-07 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
100. Great thread |
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FreeState
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Sports |
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ThomCat
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Wed Feb-07-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #102 |
116. That's a man who should have been put in jail. |
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Thu Feb-08-07 06:00 AM Response to Reply #102 |
125. damn |
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Neshanic
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
106. Very nice post. Thank you for stating it so clearly and simply. |
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undergroundpanther
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
108. Yeah I feel the same way |
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
112. Excellent |
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Morgana LaFey
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Wed Feb-07-07 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
113. Thank you, thank you, thank you |
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Wed Feb-07-07 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
115. Well, I'm not gay --- |
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gratefultobelib
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Wed Feb-07-07 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
119. Wow...I just spent about 30 minutes reading down through all of these posts, and |
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JackBeck
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Wed Feb-07-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. They're wannabe fruit flies. |
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HardRocker05
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Thu Feb-08-07 12:55 AM Response to Reply #119 |
122. we characterize them as stupid and weak, just like the men. nt |
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Thu Feb-08-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #122 |
128. Oh, I agree with that and would add hateful and narrow-minded, but |
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blonndee
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Thu Feb-08-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #128 |
131. Interesting to think about |
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MamaBear
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Thu Feb-08-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #119 |
143. They take it as rejection. |
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Fri Feb-09-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #143 |
164. I know this is an old thread, but I still want to respond to your post. And first of all, |
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Thu Feb-08-07 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
123. HUGE Hugs and Kudos FreeState + K & R |
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Thu Feb-08-07 02:05 AM Response to Original message |
124. Peace & love to you. I will never look at some members here the same way again. |
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Prophet 451
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Thu Feb-08-07 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
126. "People that don't see that it is hate against women that fuels homophobia" |
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KenHodson
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Thu Feb-08-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #126 |
138. I offend the OP based on his short list |
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Thu Feb-08-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #138 |
142. i'm curious, can you just not see the connection at all? |
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KenHodson
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Thu Feb-08-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #142 |
149. The blanket statement wasn't mine, it was the OP's |
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Thu Feb-08-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. no one accused you of making a blanket statement. i'd still like to hear your answer though |
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KenHodson
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Thu Feb-08-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #151 |
158. Sure. |
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Thu Feb-08-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. it would be more acurate to say they disrespect and fear feminine qualities |
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theHandpuppet
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Thu Feb-08-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
132. THANK YOU |
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Time for change
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Thu Feb-08-07 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
133. I think I understand how you feel |
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Skittles
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Thu Feb-08-07 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
136. THANK YOU FREESTATE |
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myrna minx
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Thu Feb-08-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
139. Hugs FreeState. |
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MamaBear
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Thu Feb-08-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
145. Thanks for a great thread. |
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Debi
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Thu Feb-08-07 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
146. Add to your list |
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Thu Feb-08-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
150. Nobody has the right -- K&R |
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Thu Feb-08-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
152. K&R. |
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Thu Feb-08-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
153. Deleted message |
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Thu Feb-08-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. Deleted sub-thread |
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Thu Feb-08-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. Christ didn't hate homosexuals... he was too busy chastising ... |
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Thu Feb-08-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. mmmmm, pizza |
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Thu Feb-08-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
157. K&R - and mysogyny link to homophobia - also a revelation to me. |
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Fri Feb-09-07 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
167. spot on! |
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Fri Feb-09-07 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
168. amen bro. nt. |
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