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CatWoman
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:46 AM Original message |
Question for old-timers: Was Watergate anything like this? |
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Atman
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. No |
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Canuckistanian
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. And every revelation was aired as soon as it became known |
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shraby
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. You had 3 channels??? I had 2, but as you said |
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goclark
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
149. I would listen to the hearings on my car radio at lunch time |
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mondo joe
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Even Match Game! |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. That's how the bastids sucked this 13 year old into being a polical wonk. |
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mondo joe
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I just kept waiting for Brett Sommers to show up. |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I'd have liked to see her question Haldeman and Ehrlichmann... |
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GreenPartyVoter
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. That coulda been good! Then Nipsy Russell could have made up a |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. There once were two tricksters |
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GreenPartyVoter
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #46 |
65. I can really hear him saying that :^D |
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ananda
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
82. Oh if we're doing Nixon jokes.. |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Good ones! nt |
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eridani
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #82 |
125. I still have a "Don't change Dicks in the middle of a screw" bumpersticker! n/t |
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eridani
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
129. You forgot one |
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Manifestor_of_Light
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Thu Jul-26-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #82 |
138. Ah yes!! Rice graffiti! |
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troubleinwinter
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Thu Jul-26-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
117. Remember the old song... |
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JPettus
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Thu Jul-26-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #117 |
140. That's True, he wasn't impeached |
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ariesgem
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Fri Jul-27-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #117 |
154. My only hope is that history repeats itself. |
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troubleinwinter
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Fri Jul-27-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #154 |
157. What a great pic. |
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wryter2000
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
104. It was mesmerizing |
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woodsprite
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. I was 9 and can remember my grandmom being glad when it |
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NewJeffCT
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
32. I was born in 1966 - |
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bdamomma
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. oh yes, at least we had the media on our side back then. |
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Atman
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. By "our side," I'm assuming you mean "the people." |
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bdamomma
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. yes, the people's side. |
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wryter2000
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
106. Remember Daniel Schorr reading the enemies list? |
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global1
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. We Had Real Investigative Reporters At That Time That Continued To..... |
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Le Taz Hot
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #15 |
51. Excellent summary. |
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ProgressiveEconomist
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
61. But those investigative reporters were in the WP METRO division, not in the WH press |
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G_j
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
94. yep, just a bunch of toadies alright! |
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EVDebs
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
132. Woodward , who now writes Bush hagiography ? |
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Serial Mom
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Fri Jul-27-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
148. and now, even Woodward, one the reporters that broke Nixon |
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PA Democrat
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. I recall watching the hearings on TV during Social Studies class. |
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MNDemNY
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
77. And the "soap opera" ladies were pissed! |
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AspenRose
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:22 PM Original message |
Now THAT I remember....kept interfering with my afternoon cartoons. |
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Hepburn
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
91. This old timer would agree with your statement. |
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roguevalley
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Thu Jul-26-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
112. yeah. remember the advocates on PBS, who debated this and it |
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Virginia Dare
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
3. I read "All The President's Men" some years back.. |
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EVDebs
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:15 PM Original message |
Intell insiders took Nixon down. Look into Sen Robt. F. Bennett's Mullan & Co. background |
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EVDebs
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
133. Early pages around 32-36 re the 'Chilean investors' in the Mexican bank |
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Richardo
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
4. Nixon teetered on the brink with the firing of the special prosecutor |
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DCKit
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #4 |
45. Not that Nixon cared much for that old rag.... |
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EVDebs
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
131. Woodward was part of intell and intell ran the operation |
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alfredo
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
66. Do you realize it was Robert Bork who did Nixon's bidding by firing the |
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Richardo
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Indeed. They went down the list at Justice and all refused to fire Cox until they got to Bork |
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alfredo
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Loyalty to the junta is all important. |
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displacedtexan
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
7. No. And... |
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onenote
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
58. Link? |
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displacedtexan
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. Link? |
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Hepburn
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
93. I remember on the bottom right corner (I think).... |
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onenote
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. I remember them discussing the weekly body count |
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EVDebs
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #97 |
134. Life Magazine one week's war dead pics Memorial Day 1969 issue |
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UnyieldingHierophant
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Thu Jul-26-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
110. I was a very small child, but I remember the scroll of those killed that day in Vietnam* |
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C_U_L8R
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
8. Way back then, we had journalists |
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KansDem
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. This observation cannot be stressed enough... |
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NewJeffCT
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Watergate inspired the RW "insurgency" |
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harun
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #35 |
72. We are eating the fruits of those labors right now and it sucks |
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EVDebs
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
135. Don't forget the Knights of Malta and other autocratic groups... |
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malaise
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
41. Bingo |
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Dulcinea
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
75. It's all about the bottom line. |
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TheBaldyMan
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
48. you still do, they just have a harder time being heard. |
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groovedaddy
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
10. I'm not much older than you, but I as a political science major |
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Tesha
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
11. Yes and No. |
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VP505
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. No |
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Tesha
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
42. After a while. Nixon needed to rise to the level of being "an embarrasment" first. |
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MannyGoldstein
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
16. Yes And No |
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Buck Rabbit
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Thu Jul-26-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
113. You hit the key difference on the nose. |
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JPettus
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Fri Jul-27-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
143. The Times were different in another way as well |
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sallyseven
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
17. Nixon was not a good person however |
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CatWoman
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
29. my daughter called me last night |
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roamer65
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Thu Jul-26-07 11:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
139. I bet * gets drunk and talks to Bill Clinton's portrait. |
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JPettus
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Fri Jul-27-07 12:31 AM Response to Reply #29 |
144. Lost it? |
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jtrockville
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
18. Nixon wasn't willing to bring the country down with him. |
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woodsprite
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
19. Do you think there is any chance the media will stop |
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azurnoir
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
23. No |
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leftofthedial
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:00 AM Original message |
No. There were actual Democrats in Congress then. |
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leftofthedial
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
24. No. There were actual Democrats in Congress then. |
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Major Hogwash
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Thu Jul-26-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
107. There were actual Republicans in Congress then as well. |
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MADem
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
26. It was more PORTENTIOUS, I think--the hearings on Tee VEE |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
27. I was working swing shift when the announcement came that he would resign. |
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bdamomma
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
55. oh yea, it was a time of celebration when Nixon stepped down. |
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EFerrari
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #27 |
73. My mom had every kid on the block over for cake and ice cream |
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Vanje
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
83. When news came of Niixon's resignation... |
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TheBaldyMan
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
28. firing the special prosecutor Fox caused a few raised eyebrows |
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spanone
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
31. waddya mean by old-timers? nixon was a prick of the highest order |
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KittyWampus
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
74. Um, Cheney WAS behind Nixon. |
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spanone
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Thu Jul-26-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
109. you're right, not in quite the same capacity as spiro agnew though..... |
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KittyWampus
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Thu Jul-26-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. ya, this is what happens when you don't put out a fire entirely. Embers eventually |
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bobbolink
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Fri Jul-27-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #115 |
155. Oh, how I wish ALL DUers could grasp the truth of which you speak! |
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OmmmSweetOmmm
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
34. No. Shrub makes Nixon look like Mr. Rogers. |
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Turbineguy
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
37. Nixon was a choirboy |
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H2O Man
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
38. Yes and no. |
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quiet.american
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
79. Yes -- "smug and cruel." Exactly. A simple-minded monster. n/t |
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
39. I don't remember Nixon being this blatantly stupid |
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Desertrose
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
63. Definitely not as stupid as * ...but then |
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Gman
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
40. The attitude of the Bush administration is identical to the Nixxon administration |
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bdamomma
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #40 |
57. that is cheney's vendetta. |
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trof
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
43. I was 30 years old. 4 key players, IMHO. |
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EVDebs
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #43 |
136. Please see post #132. Woodward hasn't changed a bit |
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CatWoman
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
151. Trof |
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Oilwellian
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
44. Well darn, you're younger than me Cat |
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CatWoman
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
152. I'm tired of my sister calling me an old bat |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
47. Major difference: The investigation was front and center in the media |
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flyarm
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
49. yes yes and yes...but this asshole is making me miss Nixon!! |
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YOY
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
81. Do you really want to know why today's youth aren't protesting? |
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flyarm
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. I WANT TO SEE IT BUT IT IS NOT PLAYING ANYWHERE NEAR ME..NO WHERE!! |
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YOY
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. The chains are set in place and he is in his cage...perhaps he won't realize until later |
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TheBaldyMan
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #92 |
124. perhaps you can download it, or get some to download it for you |
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bobbolink
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Fri Jul-27-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #92 |
156. We may very well have to lose the country before they are able to "get it" |
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TygrBright
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
50. Yes and no... |
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TacticalPeek
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
52. The disdain and contempt - quite similar. |
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King Coal
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Yeah, we need to include John Mitchell. He was the AG and he |
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Mme. Defarge
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Thu Jul-26-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #56 |
108. Interesting Helen Thomas piece on Martha Mitchell |
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King Coal
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
53. Cat, I was a little older than you, but I remember a chef I was |
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WinkyDink
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
54. Yes and no. The "no" part = the media weren't quite the lap-dogs, there were no RW shows, |
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Imagevision
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
59. No-way! Nixon didn't have the media control * has, Nixon wasn't able |
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mmonk
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Thu Jul-26-07 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
60. No. The sheer volume of what we are facing now is much worse |
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onenote
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
62. yes and no |
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nini
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
64. No.. W makes Tricky Dick look like an altar boy |
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TahitiNut
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. That cannot be emphasized enough. Smirk wouldn't qualify to shine Tricky Dick's shoes. |
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Blackhatjack
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
70. YES, and this is a replay of many of the same events.... |
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Manifestor_of_Light
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Thu Jul-26-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #70 |
142. The taping system brought him down. |
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EVDebs
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
76. Yes, In Spades. Watergate was about domestic ops, martial law, and unconstitutional exec behavior |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
78. Yes. |
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kaygore
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
80. No |
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Cameron27
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
84. What's missing is the Republican side of this I think. |
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L. Coyote
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
85. NO. And, YES, in 1972 we had criminals running the RNC and the WH. |
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ananda
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
86. I so remember. |
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NewYorkerfromMass
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #86 |
100. More names: Liz Holtzman, Peter Rodino |
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immoderate
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Thu Jul-26-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #100 |
116. The Judiciary should make Liz Holtzman their impeachment counsel. |
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NewYorkerfromMass
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Thu Jul-26-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Well, she did just write a book... |
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immoderate
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Fri Jul-27-07 05:28 AM Response to Reply #118 |
146. Yeah, I was living in NY then. And happy to vote for Liz. |
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Booster
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
88. The difference is that the press actually did their job, and did it |
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Iverson
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
89. For starters, there was an opposition party ... |
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Hamlette
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Thu Jul-26-07 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
90. yes, I was in law school at the time, it is just like this |
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Blackhatjack
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #90 |
101. You remember it just as I do... I would add Nixon's arrogance brought him down |
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Hamlette
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Thu Jul-26-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #101 |
114. hubris is very dangerous, unfortunately Bush doesn't have tapes and so far no John Dean |
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sandnsea
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #90 |
103. That's what I remember |
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
95. No. Congress wasn't as ideological back then. |
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
98. I don't think so, |
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
99. a similarity ;THEY DIDNT HAVE THE VOTES TO IMPEACH EITHER! |
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
102. Nixon was arrogant |
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Thu Jul-26-07 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
105. Cat, There Was A Different Dynamic |
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #105 |
153. I guess I really didn't "know" Nixon |
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Thu Jul-26-07 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
111. The arrogance of the President and Republicans then was just as great as the Bush Adminstration |
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Thu Jul-26-07 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
119. The MSM wasn't owned and pimped by |
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Thu Jul-26-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. Can you imagine where we would be today |
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Thu Jul-26-07 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
120. I remember it all... |
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Thu Jul-26-07 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
121. It was very much like this, with one important fact - |
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Thu Jul-26-07 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
122. Media was different, government was different |
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
126. If someone had told me in 1973 that 30 years later I'd be avidly looking out for-- |
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
127. Similarities are, Nixon could NEVER allow the 18 minutes content of the erased tape to |
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
128. NO. Repukes were semi-normal in those days. People like John Dean existed, thank G-D! Now? |
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Thu Jul-26-07 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
130. We did not have the INFORMATION then. |
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Thu Jul-26-07 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
137. Yes. Nixon was an old school thug, though. These guys are much |
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Thu Jul-26-07 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
141. Read Hitchens' book, "The Trial of... |
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Fri Jul-27-07 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
145. Not even close....Bush is THE WORST in all of Americas History |
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Fri Jul-27-07 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
147. Since most of you have said everything |
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
150. What I remember is a long quiet time between the break-in and the investigations. |
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